The Westernisation of Metal Gear Solid 5

By Wesley Yin-Poole - 07/01/2009 - 2:39pm GMT

Hideo Kojima's starting from 'zero' in 2009. Find out what that means for Metal Gear Solid 5 inside.

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Posted at 02:37 on 08 January 2009

JimMcDosh

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OMG no way dude, those graphics are so freakin ral! Wow!Last edited on Thu 8 January 2009 by FantasyMeister

Posted at 02:43 on 08 January 2009

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You people that just assume MGO is crap really enrage me, it's the most fun multiplayer I've experienced since counter-strike - it's similar to cs in terms of radio messages/text chat, teamwork is vital, have to purchase guns (how lame is it to just unlock guns by experience points), and the map design is astoundingly polished and perfected. There's so much strategy, loads of communication, you can customise your character. That's one of the most appealing things, earning reward points in clan matches to buy things for your character. Do you remember the phoenix connexion in counter-strike? I made a MGO version:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nMaelstrom.jpg

It's such a polished game, so many touches like, you can store 3 outfits and assign them for different maps, look at how well my camouflage assigns work in these environments:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...irefight-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...mbushAlley.jpg

It's a really hardcore game, but it's also got a ton of fun things like magazines, mgs characters like ocelot/meryl/snake in public games with cool unique abilities, boxes (really ****ing useful), cqc, sop, etcetera. It's got text chat, radio commands and voice chat - voice chat not used much because it's laggy and interrupts sound of footsteps and whatnot which is vital, teamwork is key in this game. My best gaming moments of all time have been in MGO.

Posted at 03:06 on 08 January 2009

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westerniztion

Posted at 03:16 on 08 January 2009

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Well This yust gurt the fanboys it's ok for me

Posted at 03:37 on 08 January 2009

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"So successful is Nintendo's motion-sensing phenomenon that it simply can't be ignored by any publisher or developer that wishes to not only remain profitable, but survive."

You make a good point, but this is the silliest sentence I have read today, and I've read McSweeney's today.

Posted at 04:34 on 08 January 2009

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Sorry, this article is utter nonsense.
- Kojima is talking about improving his development tools and methods, not changing gameplay to match western games.
- MGS5 will likely come to a next-gen console, not Wii, not Xbox360

Posted at 04:42 on 08 January 2009

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Wow...I don't know what to say about this. They better not Americanize anything about Metal Gear. I see nothing wrong with getting the technology but, the long cut-scenes is what I love about metal gear. It makes you get a better feeling for the characters. Also I find it pointless to make one on the Wii. The only people that only play the wii regularly is children, retarded teens, and people in physical therapy. The fact that it is going to be on Xbox doesn't bother me to much !I am still getting it for PS3). But come on the Wii. You talk about how you want better technology, and you decide to make a game on the Wii. That system would be lucky to even play MGS3.
Overall I wish Kojima didn't Americanize anything about that game. With a game that sold so well, don't mess with the formula.

Posted at 05:00 on 08 January 2009

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MGS4 shouldve so got the game of the year award. the fact of the matter is GTA4 was multiplatform and was able to appeal to more fans, so kudos on the multiplatform epiphany. On another note, the two year deadline-you cannot rush perfection. If 5 follows in mgs4's footsteps its gonna have everything, keeping drebin, octo, and harry gregson williams along with the other composers, also the flashbacks were genius. THANK YOU Hideo Kajima for making such a satisfying and amazing game. but.......that makes for big shoes to fill

Posted at 05:11 on 08 January 2009

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I know it might go to 360 eventually but wii what are you smoking buddy and also they said MGS4 was only possible on ps3 so how in hell would MGS5 be on 360 if the one before couldn't.Then to top that sony would either buy out koami or pay for that to be exclusive still. Think before you type geneous

Posted at 05:36 on 08 January 2009

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Myself, i think that expanding to the wii is a cool idea, i bought a wii solely for resident exil 4 and i cant tell you how many times ive played through it. the amount of control u have with the remote is awesome. so if hideo were to branch to the wii, you would hear no complaints from me.

Posted at 06:12 on 08 January 2009

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Long live hideo

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Posted at 07:16 on 08 January 2009

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Hopefully, "Westernizing" means that Kojima will take out the cliché Japanese comedy that plagues his games. MGS4, honestly, went overboard with it! A cute little mischievous monkey with an arms dealer, a dumb protagonist child chastising Snake about smoking, and "Momma, Big Momma"...?

UGH!!!

And trust me, live in Japan for over 5 years and you'll come to dislike it, too!

Posted at 07:38 on 08 January 2009

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i started to like reading this until u ****ing mentioned mgs out for 360. F. U.

Posted at 08:36 on 08 January 2009

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and unless the franchise is owned by a company aka Gears of War

Just had to add quickly, that the Gears franchise is owned by Epic, not Microsoft. I presume MS fund the development of each game in return for console exclusivity, but at some point in the future it is not inconcievable that the series could appear on the PS3 (or Wii...).

Anyway, I liked the article and I think it made a lot of sense; from an economic perspective it seems foolish for Konami to keep the series platform exclusive unless Sony make it very worth their while (i.e. tens of millions of dollars). I haven't played MGO yet, but even as a 'core' gamer and a big fan of the series I've always found the cutscenes and pretentiousness a little alienating, and if these aspects are toned down I wouldn't see that as a bad thing.

However, this has made me think about wider issues of western games vs. eastern games, and the technologies that drive both. Japanese games tend to be significantly behind European/American/Canadian games when it comes to the physicality of the gameworlds they create. Asian companies can design beautiful graphics but they seem very apathetic when it comes to physics and presence of their worlds. To pick up on this example, MGS4 has probably the best physics of any Japanese game I've ever played (I feel Dead Rising might be a better example but I haven't played it), but even so it's years behind the technology driving many western games - it doesn't even have proper ragdoll. I think as technology progresses and companies will live and die by their core series, Japanese companies need to make the effort to catch up and put their technology on a level playing field with western developers. And I would just like to re-iterate that I'm not talking about graphics, but physics.

Although, to answer my own point, the majority of games which push this technology forward tend to be FPS, and since most Japanese developers don't bother with that genre, that's probably a big part of the reason for this situation.

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Just had to add quickly, that the Gears franchise is owned by Epic, not Microsoft. I presume MS fund the development of each game in return for console exclusivity.

Actually microsoft own the ip. Yet they are pretty much tied to epic as it uses the unreal engine. Kinda like PGR and Bizarre. Anyhow back on track. If MGS4 had been cross platform relesed sales would be closer to 8 million and not 3. Its that simple and inevitable!Last edited on Thu 8 January 2009 by Karlius

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Posted at 09:40 on 08 January 2009

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Just had to add quickly, that the Gears franchise is owned by Epic, not Microsoft. I presume MS fund the development of each game in return for console exclusivity.

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I guess it wouldnt be THAT much of a disappointment if it comes to the xbox 360, but honsetly, do you think the 360 can take it?

It HAS to be better than MGS4, and i know the ps3 can handle it, but if this thing is coming to the 360, the 360 needs to start flexing its muscles.

Of course the 360 can 'take it', despite what you may have read, there is very little power difference between the two consoles - unless you can point out a PS3 game which is very clearly better-looking than, say, Gears 2.

Killzone 2 is the one PS3 game which might - might - surpass Gears 2 graphically, but I don't think we can decide on that until it is released next month.

But anyway, I'm a bit sick of people saying the 360 can't keep up - until there are some games out which very clearly prove this point, then based on current evidence the difference is negligible.

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Sorry, you're wrong. Go to the Gears of War website, go to 'Copyright & Trademarks' at the bottom of the home page and you'll see every element of Unreal Engine and Gears of War (including the name, logo and Marcus Fenix) belong to Epic. It was a similar situation with Fable aswell, before the Lionhead buyout; the IP was wholly owned by Lionhead. Whether MS make a general rule of this with their third-party collaborators, I don't know.

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