Huh, I seem to remember hearing about oh, I don't know, how gamers were like "Whaaaaaaat? That's a 360 game? Looks more like an Xbox game." when the 360 launched. Of course games aren't gonna be the greatest looking things at the start if the 360 proved anything. Let's look at the fact that Wii U can play ported games and look good if not slightly better compared to 360/PS3 games. Foward a couple of years, yeah I bet Wii U games will look much better, something a lot of people appear to be brushing off and assume that the looks of games don't get better as time goes by.
I'm pretty sure if Ubisoft wanted to port Watchdogs to Wii U, they could and it would look just as good on the Wii U. I'm sure The Last of Us or Halo 4 would look just as good on Wii U as well. Or have most games common sense ran away from them? Newer tech most of the time is better than older tech.
Also just because a dev doesn't have a game on X system doesn't mean that said dev hasn't tried to make a game or worked on X system.
Oh and I would pay $400 for Wii U. That controller has me excited. I can't wait to see all the cool things developers do with it.
You cut straight to the point, don't you. I totally forgot that Nintendo likes to limit stock near the holidays.
I second the notion to hear from these developers. Not only regarding true hardware specs, but what they truly think of the online capabilities as well. They would definitely influence my decision. I'm sure it would do the same for others. Guess we'll wait and see.
I liked how you called out 5th cell on their BS. They should shut their mouths and stick to making tired sequels for "(insert handheld)".
I wonder why Ubisoft, Bioware, Team Ninja or Rocksteady Sudios haven't spoken up about the U's hardware power? Maybe because the U isn't as capable as Nintendo wants you to think it is.
I seriously would like to hear what these guys have to say. Hell, if they can confirm that the U is truly next gen, I'm sure Nintendo wants them to speak the f__c up. It would also influence (real) gamers to buy the system on or close to launch if Nintendo decides to pull the old "not enough hardware to meet demand" bs before the holidays
So again, to all those cross platform developers...speak up!
Look, Nintendo realises that if they go down the power route with they're console, if they go down the route that their console is the one only one a gamer needs then they would lose.
The did that with the Gamecube and made a system that was much more powerful then the PS2 and lost drastically. The only reason why the cube isn't seen as the loser of last gen is because of the dreamcast.... Then they made the Wii a console that has grown to suppliment/ compliment the other current consoles, by doing something different. The wii is the first console that actually gave a proper reason for having two consoles. You had you PS3/360 for your 3rd party stuff, and you had your Wii for it's first party stuff. And the thing sold the most of the current gen.
Why would Nintendo go back to the strategy that doesn't work for them?
They know that people will buy it for their first party, because it will probably be the cheapest console (save the OUYA) and that they can actively try something different, and I'm fine with them doing that.
@ghostkid459
"Gaming is about the fun experience you have. Not about being better than someone 100% of the time."
Yes, but does that mean we cant have what we all want, the superior product that looks and plays amazingly and is maybe better than all the rest and of cause is a fun experience! all at the same time
To say wii u is more powerful than ps3 and 360 is like saying wii is more powerful than ps2 and gamecube. That didn't really mean anything when you campared wii to ps3 or 360 just like when we're going to compare U to the next PS and XBOX.
The fact is, Nintendo hasn't released the true specs, a price or a real release date. Wether they meant to or not, Nintendo has put themselves in a situation where people are doubting their ability to deliver a real next gen console. Sorry, but a touchpad controller isn't enough to categorize a system as next gen.
If you attended E3 and (with an open, unbiased mind) compared U games at the show (real demos or video) to games like watchdogs, the last of us or Halo 4(just to name a few), it was clear that Nintendo was still a generation behind. That and the fact that a good number of the high profile 3rd party titles are cross platform games(some as old as a year), really made people question if Nintendo would ever get back to the glory days of the famicom and super famicom.
Ever since the E3 announcements and my hands on experience with the U at the show, I was guessing the system would probably cost $400 usd.
If it retails at that price, would you buy one at launch? If not, what price would it take for you to take the plunge? I'm curious.
Oh by the way, 5th cell has never developed a game for PS3 or the 360. How does a company who makes games for mobile devices, a handheld and the wii know if the U is more powerful than the current gen consoles? Maybe a company who has developed games for the PS3, 360 and the U (e.g. Namco) can give us better insight in regard to hardware power.
5th cell shouldn't worry about things like this and just concentrate on what they do best(making another sequel to scribblenauts).
But picture it in 2 or 3 years when the game devs have pushed the Wii u graphics even further. It'll be amazing. Like comparing the first ps3 games to the latest ps3 games.
Of course the Wii U is more powerful than the 360 and PS3. But what really gets to me, in a bad way, is hearing Spencer of Microsoft telling us that the Wii u isn't just underpowered. But 360 games are being ported to the Wii U and the Wii U pro controller is a 360 controller. All of that is him talking out of his rectum.
To add even further, I'd like to remind you when the PS3 was first shown. Good days right? Remember Metal Gear Solid 4. Best looking game at it's time. Well here it is now, several years later, and take a look at games such as Dragons Dogma, or even Uncharted 3. Those are way better than Metal Gear Solid 4, and so far we only seen mostly ported games on the Wii U(hence why it looks similar to older game consoles). So picture this.
Look at game graphics on Wii U now. Then wait til, maybe, 2 or 3 years. The Wii U games will be extremely graphicly surpieor. But two things before I finish. It takes time for devlopers to push the graphics of a game system to it's breaking point just to figure out how strong it can run their engine. (plus i'd rather believe a game dev over microsoft about the Wii U) And last thing. This is the most important thing ever. Nintendo heavily hints at this, but a lot of people seem to ignore it. It isn't about being a "fanboy" to this game, or that game, or that game company, or that game console creator. It's about picking up a video game. Sitting down. Maybe alone, maybe with family, or friends. And playing that game, and having fun doing it. Not running around screaming at a game calling other games pointless and playing a game where all you do is hold a few buttons and shoot someone.
Gaming is about the fun experience you have. Not about being better than someone 100% of the time. End rant/
Lots of consoles have games that don't look amazing, doesn't mean that the console can't do it.
Did you bother looking at the Zelda demo, pikmin 3 trailer or project p-100? This is pre-launch and those games already look amazing.
Epic said yesterday that UE4 can run on Wii U but they personally can't be bothered. Of course, this doesn't necessarily say more of Wii U's capabilities than it does UE4's scalability.
If Epic Games are saying that UE4 will not launch on the Wii U, that says to me that it's not enough of a leap over the 360/PS3 to make it run.
At a minimum, the game should look atleast as good as the current gen consoles. I remember when the 360 came out and the original Xbox games were re-released on the 360, they looked better and it was on completely different architecture.
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mrnintyfan@ wolfniggr
I'm pretty sure if Ubisoft wanted to port Watchdogs to Wii U, they could and it would look just as good on the Wii U. I'm sure The Last of Us or Halo 4 would look just as good on Wii U as well. Or have most games common sense ran away from them? Newer tech most of the time is better than older tech.
Also just because a dev doesn't have a game on X system doesn't mean that said dev hasn't tried to make a game or worked on X system.
Oh and I would pay $400 for Wii U. That controller has me excited. I can't wait to see all the cool things developers do with it.
wolfniggr@ Gamermerle
You cut straight to the point, don't you. I totally forgot that Nintendo likes to limit stock near the holidays.
I second the notion to hear from these developers. Not only regarding true hardware specs, but what they truly think of the online capabilities as well. They would definitely influence my decision. I'm sure it would do the same for others. Guess we'll wait and see.
Gamermerle@ wolfniggr
I wonder why Ubisoft, Bioware, Team Ninja or Rocksteady Sudios haven't spoken up about the U's hardware power? Maybe because the U isn't as capable as Nintendo wants you to think it is.
I seriously would like to hear what these guys have to say. Hell, if they can confirm that the U is truly next gen, I'm sure Nintendo wants them to speak the f__c up. It would also influence (real) gamers to buy the system on or close to launch if Nintendo decides to pull the old "not enough hardware to meet demand" bs before the holidays
So again, to all those cross platform developers...speak up!
Gamermerle@ MJTH
Maybe you should get off Nintendo's nuts and concentrate on this website
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The did that with the Gamecube and made a system that was much more powerful then the PS2 and lost drastically. The only reason why the cube isn't seen as the loser of last gen is because of the dreamcast.... Then they made the Wii a console that has grown to suppliment/ compliment the other current consoles, by doing something different. The wii is the first console that actually gave a proper reason for having two consoles. You had you PS3/360 for your 3rd party stuff, and you had your Wii for it's first party stuff. And the thing sold the most of the current gen.
Why would Nintendo go back to the strategy that doesn't work for them?
They know that people will buy it for their first party, because it will probably be the cheapest console (save the OUYA) and that they can actively try something different, and I'm fine with them doing that.
tvr77
"Gaming is about the fun experience you have. Not about being better than someone 100% of the time."
Yes, but does that mean we cant have what we all want, the superior product that looks and plays amazingly and is maybe better than all the rest and of cause is a fun experience! all at the same time
wolfniggr
The fact is, Nintendo hasn't released the true specs, a price or a real release date. Wether they meant to or not, Nintendo has put themselves in a situation where people are doubting their ability to deliver a real next gen console. Sorry, but a touchpad controller isn't enough to categorize a system as next gen.
If you attended E3 and (with an open, unbiased mind) compared U games at the show (real demos or video) to games like watchdogs, the last of us or Halo 4(just to name a few), it was clear that Nintendo was still a generation behind. That and the fact that a good number of the high profile 3rd party titles are cross platform games(some as old as a year), really made people question if Nintendo would ever get back to the glory days of the famicom and super famicom.
Ever since the E3 announcements and my hands on experience with the U at the show, I was guessing the system would probably cost $400 usd.
If it retails at that price, would you buy one at launch? If not, what price would it take for you to take the plunge? I'm curious.
Oh by the way, 5th cell has never developed a game for PS3 or the 360. How does a company who makes games for mobile devices, a handheld and the wii know if the U is more powerful than the current gen consoles? Maybe a company who has developed games for the PS3, 360 and the U (e.g. Namco) can give us better insight in regard to hardware power.
5th cell shouldn't worry about things like this and just concentrate on what they do best(making another sequel to scribblenauts).
Ghostkid459@ stretch90
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To add even further, I'd like to remind you when the PS3 was first shown. Good days right? Remember Metal Gear Solid 4. Best looking game at it's time. Well here it is now, several years later, and take a look at games such as Dragons Dogma, or even Uncharted 3. Those are way better than Metal Gear Solid 4, and so far we only seen mostly ported games on the Wii U(hence why it looks similar to older game consoles). So picture this.
Look at game graphics on Wii U now. Then wait til, maybe, 2 or 3 years. The Wii U games will be extremely graphicly surpieor. But two things before I finish. It takes time for devlopers to push the graphics of a game system to it's breaking point just to figure out how strong it can run their engine. (plus i'd rather believe a game dev over microsoft about the Wii U) And last thing. This is the most important thing ever. Nintendo heavily hints at this, but a lot of people seem to ignore it. It isn't about being a "fanboy" to this game, or that game, or that game company, or that game console creator. It's about picking up a video game. Sitting down. Maybe alone, maybe with family, or friends. And playing that game, and having fun doing it. Not running around screaming at a game calling other games pointless and playing a game where all you do is hold a few buttons and shoot someone.
Gaming is about the fun experience you have. Not about being better than someone 100% of the time. End rant/
stretch90@ scorpian007
Did you bother looking at the Zelda demo, pikmin 3 trailer or project p-100? This is pre-launch and those games already look amazing.
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scorpian007@ Woffls
At a minimum, the game should look atleast as good as the current gen consoles. I remember when the 360 came out and the original Xbox games were re-released on the 360, they looked better and it was on completely different architecture.
Woffls@ scorpian007
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only a troll would think it isnt
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