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Ah the music. The music in PES has always been bad. But the music in PES 2008 is quite possibly the worst I've ever heard in a video game. Konami has attempted to copy EA Sports' style of having the artist and song name flash up on screen, but has completely botched it. In PES 2008, the name of song will display along with the genre of music, from electronica to drum and bass, in a small box on the top right of the screen. But it's nothing to be proud of. Let me give you some sample lyrics from a piece of original music in the game (you have to imagine this with a Status Quo-type punk rock riff): "Football, soccer, football, soccer, football, soccer, all around the world. Football, soccer, football, soccer, football, soccer, Greatest game of all!" One of the first things you'll do in PES 2008 is head straight for the game settings to turn off the background music. It'll be one of the best decisions of your life.
Diving. Yes, you can dive in PES 2008, by pressing Left Trigger, LB and Right Trigger together. This new feature has split fans right down the middle. Konami say it's reflective of how football is in real life. But nobody likes diving, right? It's cheating. So why allow you to cheat in a game? In a match, there's no point diving unless you're being pressed in the box and you think it might make your shot hit row Z rather than the back of the net. Anywhere else and you'll get booked for it. In our multiplayer games in Pro-G towers, we quickly added no diving to house rules. We suspect when the online servers go live this weekend, a lot of people will do the same. Our view? We reckon Konami's time would have been better spent improving the game's graphics.
Speaking of dodgy new features, Konami has taken the bizarre option of changing the position of the camera when you are saving penalties to the foot of the keeper. The process of taking and saving a penalty is the same - pressing the correct direction on the d-pad and shoot, but the new perspective is very disorienting. I'm not really sure why Konami changed it - it felt fine to me before.
Another poorly implemented new feature is the ability to can scan your face into the game via the Xbox Live Vision camera and map it onto a user-generated player. Sounds good in theory, but it doesn't work too well. I tried it and had a real hard time getting anything even remotely life-like, despite more face-moulding options than you can shake a hair-dryer at.
Fans of the Premier League will be disappointed to learn that Konami is still yet to prize EA Sports' unflinching grasp from that elusive exclusive license.
And the Master League has undergone some underwhelming tweaks. You might have seen some screenshots of what looks like players talking to the media and signing autographs at training. Don't be fooled. This is just window dressing for the Master League, which despite a menu re-jig is essentially exactly the same experience as in Pro Evolution Soccer 6.
Fans of the Premier League will be disappointed to learn that Konami is still yet to prize EA Sports' unflinching grasp from that elusive exclusive license. The two licensed teams here are Tottenham and Newcastle, replacing Arsenal and Manchester United. So yet again we have London (Chelsea), North London (Arsenal), Man Red (Man Utd) and Merseyside Red (Liverpool) battling it out for the England League title in plain kits that look like Lycra. The feeling here is less disappointment, more a depressed resignation. Some transfers haven't made it into the game either - Danny Murphy is still at Spurs when he should be at Fulham, and Lassana Diarra is still at Chelsea when he should be at Arsenal. But again, we can live with this, especially now that the 360 version has a fully fleshed out edit mode.
In the PS3 review we said that the most disappointing thing about PES 2008 was that if it wasn't crippled by its technical problems it would one of the best Pro Evolution Soccer games ever made. Does that make the 360 version one of the best PES games ever made? As someone who has played every Pro Evo game Konami has brought to the UK, I'd have to say yes. Some will baulk at the more arcade feel to the game, and how dribbling and passing has been made easier (in direct contrast to FIFA's more considered play), but for me it's hit a sweet spot. And others will say the 360 d-pad is terrible for playing PES (which it is), although this has never really bothered me since I always use the analogue stick both on the Sixaxis and the 360 pad. Of more importance is the fact that Konami hasn't embraced next-gen gaming in any way shape or form with PES 2008. The graphics are distinctly last-gen and the game is almost identical in terms of modes and features to Pro Evolution 6. Looks like Seabass has earmarked next year's game for that. Third time lucky eh?
But PES 2008's gameplay is a big improvement on last year's effort. PES fans can forgive the poor graphics, the God-awful music, the embarrassing presentation and lack of licensed teams because the core of the game is so mind-bogglingly brilliant. Some gamers have called for a complete overhaul of the game, as legendary PES executive producer Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka has confirmed will be in place for 2009's game. But for me, I love PES's gameplay the way it is. The feeling of satisfaction you get from scoring a goal in PES, be it a tap-in at the end of an Arsenal-esque 20-pass move or a Frank Lampard scorcher, is unlike anything in gaming. It's about as close as us mortals are going to get to that uncontrollable burst of emotion professional footballers experience week in, week out. The most important thing is that in PES 2008 you can still get that beautiful feeling.
The online servers for the game just gone live, and are currently suffering varying degrees of lag across all systems. Check back next week for our thoughts on how this year's game fares when played over the internet and hopefully, when Konami has implemented a patch.
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Clance wrote at 13:09 on 26 October 2007
Commentary
Could this be the reason for slowdown? I always thought PES sacrificed commentary for amazing gameplay - which is why it felt smoother than FIFA.
But it was nice to hear John Champion make a mess of himself (spilling his tea) when i ran the length of the wing and cut in for a screamer that the keeper saved. "Here's a chaaa-AAAAAANCE!!". Who with? Gael Clichy, of course.
jue wrote at 13:21 on 26 October 2007
moneyhatted review?
sounds like it was written by a xbot or you got payed to say it's the better version
it's mostly a copy/paste of the ps3 review and the "quick points" dont make any sense with the review itself
Putty Man wrote at 15:37 on 26 October 2007
Good idea to post 2 seperate reviews guys. Pity about the PS3 version tho, hopefully the upcoming patch will sort it out.
J.m wrote at 17:28 on 26 October 2007
sounds like PS3 fanboys getting hot under the collar.. theyre both tested under same circumstances.. im guessing that blue ray and more power means nothing unless u get ur own games to work lmao
bob wrote at 02:22 on 27 October 2007
this game rules!!!!! wooooo!
sumo wrote at 20:42 on 27 October 2007
Well i was a big fan of Pes but this years edition is no improvement from pes 07 which i played on the ps2, i never thought id say that but Fifa this year is the real simulation, Konami is way too conservative about fixing their game, every year same ol same ol. After reading the review i thought youd give it a 6/7 instead of a 9 (???), how can you rate 9 a game with same gameplay, ( its even more arcadey actually), same bad graphics, same modes and all?It sounds very biased to me.
HorsePlay wrote at 00:39 on 28 October 2007
it fifa yh sure u got all the kits and the graphics r better but pes the gameplay and mutiplayer r great and u can't beat that in a football game. Your love fifa 4 a little bit and then ur get bored and probably trade it bk in like i did (4 days after gettin) but pes last yr i played that game nearly everyday 2 player with my m8s.
Dee wrote at 10:34 on 28 October 2007
Diving question....!?
...I got PES 2008 for the 360 & it's a vast improvement on laat years poor attempt!
My only question is do the dives ever work!? Altho it is cheating etc etc etc etc etc blah blah blah its a gr8 new addition in my opinion! Just adds sumthing new to the game! Anyways I just want this clarified by any1 that knows!!
Cheers Pro-g!!!
D
bert :-) wrote at 15:26 on 29 October 2007
pes08
wel i first played pes08 on live marketplace 4 the 360 it looked class graphics i fink r good gameplay good EVERYTHINKS good about it but 1 thing im really anoyed at is, i pre ordered the dam game on a site called www.cd-wow.com it said i will get it 1-2 days i forght gr8 bt monday is here still no game i have emailed them saying where is my game they havnt even sent it yet!! i am going crazy i have looked at all the sites about pro evo n watched all the videos !!! just warning every1 dnt buy of cd-wow.com !!!!
shadowfighter wrote at 18:53 on 29 October 2007
PES ON XBOX LIVE
i am one of the biggest pro evo fan in the world... i started from 'ISS Football' threw to pes 2008. but now......i cant get on live in a ranked match...it match makes for about 5mins then says no games found...i am fine to play a unranked match but the lag is terrible...its actually unplayable... i even got a friend to play with me we both have 8meg broadband we both had a direct connection and both had PCs turned off and still......can someone please tell me if they are experiencing the same problem
lennyman wrote at 11:47 on 31 October 2007
That's far and away the best PES2008 review I have read. What a fantastic but ultimately infuriating game it is. I'll still be playing it next year on the X360 but please, please sort out the issues mentioned for PES 2009.
Borgen wrote at 15:49 on 31 October 2007
Diving
Imagine this: You are having a gaming night with your mates, it's overtime, the score is 2-2 and you are inside the box. One of your mates comes in to stop you, and just as he's touching you and you know he'll get the ball, you dive... The referee blows his whistle and all of you're mates hold their breath for a split second... PENALTY! A burst of anger from your oppionent sends a smile upon your face... You score, the match is over, and you'll have a long, heated discussion, just like in real life!
Needless to say, I think the diving option is a cool new feature to a superb game series!
Serious gamers play PES, kids play FIFA... :-P
king-bert wrote at 11:22 on 01 November 2007
diving
how do you dive on the 360 ??
jtorry wrote at 11:24 on 01 November 2007
Lb, Lt & Rb.
Ell wrote at 16:27 on 01 November 2007
Pro 6 on the 360 was slow & sh*t compared to the PS2 version but pro 2008 on the 360 blows away all competition! It aint all about PS3 on this one.
hnic2000 wrote at 16:55 on 01 November 2007
mr
Love the new game but what the f%$k have they done to the Xbox live mode. Ive seen everything from players teleporting around the pitch (always the opposition) to my keeper making a save and the ball mystically appearing in the back of the net. Not to mention the time it takes to find a match, I had no such problems on pro 6.
Syk wrote at 11:14 on 03 November 2007
Inconsistent muchly?
I'd like to know how the author justifies placing a 9 next to the gameplay score card there, a 6 next to sound and comes up with a 9 overall? Was this scored and written by two completely different people, because the dichotomy between the score and the impression from the review is astounding. If I was someone basing my purchasing decision over the score you have granted this, and failed to read your review, I would be completely mislead.
Please consider your audience when putting together nonsense like that. So for next time please, at least try and mask your interest/bias somewhat, so it at least comes off as credible.
Anonymous wrote at 13:10 on 05 November 2007
Anyone else notice that the edit mode is still worse on the 360 version of this game.
You cant scroll through the preset player faces like in the old versions.
am i correct?
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