Shift 2: Unleashed

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Sony and Polyphony Digital's Gran Turismo 5 is not considered a game by Shift 2 producer Jesse Abney.

Abney told VideoGamer.com that in his eyes, a product needs to meet certain criteria in order to be classified as a game. When judged against this criteria, he believes Gran Turismo 5 falls short.

"I've never really considered GT5 a game," Abney told VideoGamer.com. "A game to us equals fun, equals entertainment - and Need For Speed has always been about entertaining and fun.

"You play GT5, you get a scientific approach to driving. Physics simulations are often subjective, and again - we find we're not presenting the same kind of physics simulation in the race day environment that GT5 is doing in their driving simulation."

Despite operating in the same video game genre, Abney concluded that the two titles don't really compete.

"We've never really professed to compete against them, we've just said that we want to deliver a fun, exciting, visceral, entertaining racing experience."

Shift 2 will be released for Xbox 360, PS3 and PC on March 25.

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EA is clearly attempting to differentiate its 'sim' Need for Speed spin-off from Sony's best-selling driving simulator, but we're pretty confident there are millions of gamers who'd argue GT5 can still be fun and entertaining despite its scientific approach to driving.

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clangod

GRID is by no means a sim. It's as much a sim as Shift or Burnout Paradise.

I reckon you're just taking the piss...
Posted 16:39 on 28 January 2011

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I have been racing cars for 10 years now and I’m a double major in mechanical engineering and physics. Drag racing, drifting, rally (road and dirt,) karting, and global formula racing (GFR) are all forms of racing that I’ve competed in over the years. After playing Shift, Shift 2, and Gran Turismo 5 (GT5,) I have come to the conclusion that need for speed has lost their way! None of their recent games are fun! I can’t turn in ether of the shifts without drifting like a prepubescent teenager on sugar or encountering immense steering lag... then drifting again. It’s easier to use the walls to turn. Besides the values of their most recent games dropping, For example, Need for speed the run’s campaign only lasted 2 hours and there is no difficulty involved. I never even used the brakes. Need for speed has not even put the outside world into use. Forza had Pirelli help with grip; GT5 used real car testing and development to create the most realistic feelings and reactions of driving. Granted that GT5 is considered a simulator, it is more of a game then Need For speed Shift and Shift 2 will ever be.
If anything, this is just a stunt to draw the less experienced drivers into a pit of need for speed track racing. Once they try it, it becomes useless to try a well made game like GT5 because they will not be able to handle the Physics of the game.
To all who may think, “Well it’s not Need for speed’s fault,” yes; it is. Look into the videogame Project Cars. It is created by the same people that made shift and shift 2. Look at the difference in quality and it will be obvious how bad shift really is.
Posted 00:58 on 12 September 2012
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clangod

GRID is by no means a sim. It's as much a sim as Shift or Burnout Paradise.

I reckon you're just taking the piss...
Posted 16:39 on 28 January 2011
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HarryH@ WhoIsThePresidentNow

I "spelt" Harry wrong? How do you spell it "Who is the president now?"

BTW...Spelt - hardy wheat grown mostly in Europe for livestock feed. :lol:
Posted 15:58 on 28 January 2011
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WhoIsThePresidentNow@ HarryH

I like petty arguments like

You also missed out I end my sentances with like like.

Also my user name is missing a question mark when it's clearly asking a question.

You also spelt Harry wrong :lick:

@ucwepn
I said realistic nothing about the game itself like. GT5 isn't realistic like other racing games before it like.
I think you should just stick to NFS if you don't like sims like.
Posted 11:03 on 28 January 2011
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ucwepn@ WhoIsThePresidentNow

Grid was the god dammned worst piece of ***** excuse for a driving game I ever played
Posted 07:00 on 28 January 2011
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ucwepn

Well NFS shift was a decent game made by a reputable sim developer I think by the guys who made GTR. The first big problem I have with the game is allot of slowdown issues on the ps3 version (nothing worse than first corner framerate slowdown). second Issue I have with shift is the lack of support in fixing issues like DFGT bugs and other inexcusable bugs like the nurburgring disappearing in the last race of a championship and me having to restart the ps3 because of lockups and losing progress that was unsaved. Shift was enjoyable but needs more testing, if the second game is made by the same team then it will be decent i hope they address any issues that arise before shipping unlike the first game. I am a GT5 fan it is a superb driving game, nfs shift while fun felt a bit "unrealistic" and average looking at times but enjoyable enough. I am sick of developers and publishing companies *****canning other companies and competitor products just to get free troll viral advertising. You will see that if you build yourself up to muxh you will be the subject of extreme scrutiny upon release, good luck with that.
Posted 06:57 on 28 January 2011
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HarryH@ WhoIsThePresidentNow

This is coming from a guy who can't spell quantity.
Posted 18:35 on 27 January 2011
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clangod

Quote:
Originally Posted by thompo
F1 2010 for instance, I think I'm beating you still with my fastest time around Hockenheim.

Mission accepted.
Posted 17:03 on 27 January 2011
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thompo555@ clangod

I must agree with you here, they are both basically catering for different audiences!

I have played shift with a steering wheel too and I literally crashed into everything and anything. I'm sure you'll vouch for me here, but I'm not one for holding the accelerator down around a whole lap - F1 2010 for instance, I think I'm beating you still with my fastest time around Hockenheim. Shift just didnt work well at all for me.
Posted 16:57 on 27 January 2011
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clangod

I don't understand why anyone who favours realism would opt for something like GRID over GT5. Codemasters made another great racer, and the damage model is superb but in terms of the 'realistic' driving experience GT5 is just sublime.

The irony is that for a game like GT5, the sheer magnatude of content belies the level of focus one could attribute to a game like Shift or Shift 2. By being less worried about quantity and providing a more instantly gratifying experience, they appeal to a more action oriented audience. Although I enjoyed Shift with a controller, I have not enjoyed playing it with a wheel. The handling model is terrible so that's my only real concern regarding Shift 2.

Although they come across as blatant chest-puffing comments, I agree that he does have a point. I really hope they nail the control because I'm eager to see the finished product.
Posted 16:51 on 27 January 2011
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Woffls@ draytone

Yes, it's called tedium :P
Posted 15:18 on 27 January 2011
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draytone

GT5 is a state of mind mannnn
Posted 15:15 on 27 January 2011
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Woffls

I see what he's saying, but it might have been safer to phrase it as "We approach our product as a game first, and a driving experience second, because ultimately what's important is that the end user has an enjoyable experience. That doesn't mean we aren't paying close attention to the driving model, but this is entertainment software, after all."
Posted 15:13 on 27 January 2011
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mikejosh1978

GT5 is half the racing / driving game it should of been , yes its 3D ,yes it drives ok , yes it has lots of cars , mainly ugly but still lots but the other half is a bit of a mixed bag of good intentions / ideas just held together with spit not the expected glue with a nice sealant most expected. I'm a fan of both games & the arguments/ opinions are all half truths . I just think its a who's got the biggest contest , & sales will determine that so we shall see when the games have had 6mth on the shelves.
Posted 15:04 on 27 January 2011
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WhoIsThePresidentNow@ MJTH

It's not about quanity but quality.

Most of GT5 cars looked poor with only a couple that looked like somekind of effort had been put into it.

I agree GT5 is rubbish though like.

But I will be getting Test Drive Unlimited 2 rather than Shift. In terms of driving GT5 isn't realistic like.

If you are looking for realism look at Forza, Test Drive and GRID like.
Posted 15:03 on 27 January 2011

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Release Date: 01/04/2011
Developer: Slightly Mad Studios
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Genre: Racing
Rating: PEGI 3+
Site Rank: 437
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