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PES 2009 is under pressure, and Konami knows it. It knows that last year's effort was a disappointment, suffering from technical problems and complaints surrounding the more arcadey gameplay. PES fans want, indeed demand, better. And if they don't get what they want then it may, dare we say it, be time to switch over to the dark side. But fear not virtual football fans. In Konami's behind closed doors booth at Games Convention in Leipzig we got our grubby mits on an Xbox 360 pad and challenged the Japanese publisher's UK representative to a few games and discovered that lessons have clearly been learnt.
The first thing we were told by the Konami rep is that the frame rate issues that plagued the last game are completely gone. Well thank God for that. Fans will remember that the PS3 version in particular suffered from game breaking slowdown whenever the action approached the penalty area. The Xbox 360 version wasn't without its problems either, although it was a much smoother experience. But the fact is that it was a stuttering, annoying mess.
Well it's all gone. Completely gone. We played match after match on the Xbox 360 version and didn't spot a hint of slowdown. It all runs in what looks like gorgeous 60 frames per second graphical goodness, which delighted us, and we're sure will delight anyone who loves the series.
It's all down, we're told, to Pro Evolution Soccer creator Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka concentrating almost exclusively on the 'next-gen' versions of the game this time around. He himself admitted in the wake of the wave of criticism that followed the release of PES 2008 that the team wasn't well equipped to deal with multiplatform development. Well, instead of deciding to get better at it Konami has simply decided to negate the issue by focusing on the PS3 and 360 versions of the game, putting the other versions on the back seat or indeed farming them out to external developers. The best thing? The frame rate issues have been completely eradicated from both versions of the game, our Konami rep assures us. So PS3 owners will have just as good a game of football as their 360-owning gaming cousins.
Which is great, because PES 2009 plays a better game. We quite liked PES 2008's gameplay, in that it was a lot better than Pro Evo 6 - the one with the overpowered Adriano. But 2009 feels even better. It actually feels more akin to Pro Evo 5, in that the speed of the game has been reduced and players are no longer the dribbling machines they have been in recent years. It's much harder to keep hold of the ball now, and, therefore, much easier to take the ball away by pressing. This forces you to think creatively with passing, much more than in recent years. No longer will you be able to bomb it down the wing, twisting up the entire opposition team before rifling a shot into the top corner. Now, you'll need to build up intricate moves, select your passing carefully (accurate passing is a lot harder) before threading the killer through ball. Creating space is of vital importance, because you're quickly hounded by the opposition AI.
Once you get into a scoring position, you'll find the keepers vastly improved. In our play tests we noticed that the keepers didn't fumble quite as many shots as in the last game. This is down to a GK AI improvement, but also better shooting. You won't always hit the ball straight at the keeper now, so scoring cheap rebound goals won't be as frequent.
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Jimbo wrote at 14:18 on 22 August 2008
A PES fan, I made an honest effort to get into Fifa 08. Sorry, but it's boring - you feel vaguely detached from what's happening on the pitch, whereas in PES every little twitch of the controls immediately has an impact on screen. The graphics of both games were awful: PES for its jerkiness, FIFA for its weird, cartoonish player models and odd palette. FIFA would have to completely rebuild its gameplay model for me to make the switch.
Paul wrote at 16:14 on 22 August 2008
The whole article is negated when they say PES 2008 was better than PES 6. I hope they meant stripped-down, bad-joke, next-gen PES 6, because then the writer really does not have a clue.
Tommo wrote at 17:35 on 22 August 2008
Once i was a huge Superstar Soccer/PES fan it died with PES 6 the adriano fiasco i really want PES back but i have to wait till PES 2009 is out for a week to gauge the online shambles before i buy - konami what gives also the online needs stucture i was sick of playing inter milan/brazil all the time BORING
/prays this is a return to what made the game great
Neil wrote at 14:39 on 24 August 2008
No way is PES2008 better tha PES6!!! ridiculous comment!!!!
Enda_of_Eire wrote at 02:02 on 25 August 2008
Pes6 was the best PES, Pes 2008 was the worst PES.
I run Pesland.com, just another Pes fansite, but out of 100's of players that i know, not one will say what this idiot writer has stated!
Allthough he is a good writer.
shut it! wrote at 10:42 on 26 August 2008
They've got the champions league licsence, so thats why they will have more official teams.
cheesits wrote at 07:48 on 05 September 2008
I've still got a biiter aftertase from pes 2008, my ears still hurt from the awful music as well. I sold the game on and actually stepped back a console and played pro evo 6 on the ps2. PES 2009 will probably just be the game 2008 should have been.
They should also update the transfers and stats online, and have customisable national squads.
West18 wrote at 15:17 on 05 September 2008
Are there any new moves ? Or is it it still same old tricks from the 90's
That's all pes needs to give it a little bit more action.
Just picture Christiano Ronaldo going at Cole :}}}}}}}}}} Panna Damsco Style
Nobbysbuts wrote at 07:23 on 10 September 2008
My mate has been working on the next installment PES 2009 and he said the demo was supposed to be out on the 11th but the reason its not is cos they just finished writing the code and the man put in charge of saving the data accidently pressed ESC!! before he saved it!
pesfan utd wrote at 12:29 on 10 September 2008
Nobbysbuts you are talkin ballix.
1cnpegjm wrote at 19:05 on 10 September 2008
good staff m8.
PES-expert wrote at 05:45 on 11 September 2008
You are all right and wrong. The thing is:
PES6 on PC/PS2 has NOTHING to do with PES6 on XBOX360! PES6 on PC/PS2 was THE version everyone still praises to being one of (if not the) the best PES installments, yet. PES6 on XBOX360 was the direct predecessor of PES 2008 and therefore relative crappy.
So, taking that into account, it is understandable that some people even say "PES 2008 was the best PES yet" - cause PES 2008 on PS2 was an advanced PES6 we know from PC/PS2.
Nobbysbuts wrote at 14:56 on 11 September 2008
Actually I think your wrong! because PES 6 is in fact PES 7!! i know this because my friend works for Konami and said seabass calls PES 6 "PES 7" because he isnt good at counting and they are too embaressed to tell him its in fact 6!!
hartlepoolutd wrote at 06:06 on 14 September 2008
lol nobby, u drunk?
Anonymous wrote at 18:00 on 15 September 2008
I been playing the recently released jleugue winning eleven club championship 2008 on the ps2,while lacking the gloss of next gen consoles it does feature all the new gameplay refinements that will feature in 2009.All i have to say is konami have come good,genuine aftertouch,players off the ball seek space,a through ball that works,total freedom of control on long passes,proper back heels,instant return passes and fluid gameplay.The games is still fast but so is real football unlike the slow pes6 and the new enhancements mirror this coupled with better teammate ai who now read the play and defend and track back you have one hell of a game.Roll on oct my appertite is wet for that nextgen gloss.Dopecoil
Anonymous wrote at 18:08 on 15 September 2008
Its comparable to the gameplay of konamis perfect striker games on the n64 fluid seamless and hardcore.konami have given it back to the real player thanks in part to a good european cup which was played how football should,quick,lots of long passes and plenty of goal mouth action,im sure people will still mone but i dont think it gets any better ive waited nine years for a game this deep with every year pes improving now we have the definitive pes.......Dopecoil
Anonymous wrote at 18:15 on 15 September 2008
If you cant wait buy j league we club championship 2008 on the ps2 to taste this magic but stop worrying and speculating about pes 2009 the asian league version shot strait to number one in the japanese game charts on release for good reason. Fifa be afraid be very afraid KONAMI ARE BACK AND DOING IT THERE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nobbysbuts wrote at 15:38 on 16 September 2008
hi anonymous, thanks for the info I have actually ordered the j league we club championship for my modded ps2.Is there alot of difference in play between pes 2008 on the ps2 and the j-league cc game? i ordered it to pass the time till 2009 comes out and from what your saying the ps2 version of 2009 will be amazing
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