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The keepers have been altered too. In the last game, lots of goals were scored because keepers parried shots into the paths of onrushing attackers, something that drew a lot of complaints from PES's vocal fanbase. It was as if every keeper suffered from a dose of Paul Robinson syndrome. While you'll still be able to score gaols in this way, it happens less. Keepers are better shot stoppers too, but will flap a bit on crosses. Keepers in PES 2008 are more Jose Reina than Petr Cech. We have to say it's an improvement.
The commentary is hugely improved. In fact, it's the best ever in a PES game. We've now got John Champion and Mark Lawrenson casting their critical eye on proceedings. Love them or hate them, the commentary is well up with play, with Champion doing a great job of sounding genuinely excited if there's a chance. There's also some insight into the teams, which, while irrelevant, help ad authenticity to the action. Champion will mention that the team has moaned to the press about having two training sessions a day in the build up to the game. Pointless, but nice. I've always turned the commentary off in every PES game I've played, until now.
Ah the music. The music in PES has always been bad. But the music in PES 2008 is quite possibly the worst I've ever heard in a video game. Konami has attempted to copy EA Sports' style of having the artist and song name flash up on screen, but has completely botched it. In PES 2008, the name of song will display along with the genre of music, from electronica to drum and bass, in a small box on the top right of the screen. But it's nothing to be proud of. Let me give you some sample lyrics from a piece of original music in the game (you have to imagine this with a Status Quo-type punk rock riff): "Football, soccer, football, soccer, football, soccer, all around the world. Football, soccer, football, soccer, football, soccer, Greatest game of all!" One of the first things you'll do in PES 2008 is head straight for the game settings to turn off the background music. It'll be one of the best decisions of your life.
Diving. Yes, you can dive in PES 2008, by pressing L1, L2 and R1 together. This new feature has split fans right down the middle. Konami say it's reflective of how football is in real life. But nobody likes diving, right? It's cheating. So why allow you to cheat in a game? In a match, there's no point diving unless you're being pressed in the box and you think it might make your shot hit row Z rather than the back of the net. Anywhere else and you'll get booked for it. In our multiplayer games in Pro-G towers, we quickly added no diving to house rules. We suspect when the online servers go live this weekend, a lot of people will do the same. Our view? We reckon Konami should have concentrated more on getting the game running properly on PS3 than putting in dodgy new features.
PES 2008 on PS3 is for a next-gen console but it is not a next-gen game. You cannot ignore the fact that, for whatever reason, this is a poor effort from Konami.
Speaking of dodgy new features, there are a few more in the game. Penalties work the same but from a new angle. The camera is positioned by the foot of the keeper if you are saving a penalty. The process of taking and saving a penalty is the same - pressing the correct direction on the d-pad and shoot, but the new perspective is very disorienting. I'm not really sure why Konami changed it - it felt fine to me before. You can scan your face into the game via the PlayStation Eye and map it onto a user-generated player. Sounds good in theory, but it doesn't work too well. I tried it and had a real hard time getting anything even remotely life-like, despite more face-moulding options than you can shake a hair-dryer at. You might have seen some screenshots of what looks like players talking to the media. This is just window dressing for the Master League, which despite a menu re-jig is essentially exactly the same as before.
Fans of the Premier League will be disappointed to learn that Konami is still yet to prize EA Sports' unflinching grasp from that elusive exclusive license. The two licensed teams here are Tottenham and Newcastle, replacing Arsenal and Manchester United. So yet again we have London (Chelsea), North London (Arsenal), Man Red (Man Utd) and Merseyside Red (Liverpool) battling it out for the England League title in plain kits that look like Lycra. The feeling here is less disappointment, more a depressed resignation. Some transfers haven't made it into the game either - Danny Murphy is still at Spurs when he should be at Fulham, and Lassana Diarra is still at Chelsea when he should be at Arsenal. But again, we can live with this, especially with a fully fleshed out edit mode.
What's most disappointing about PES 2008 on PS3 is that if it wasn't crippled by its technical problems, it would one of the best Pro Evolution Soccer games ever made. It would certainly be an improvement on last year's next-gen effort. PES fans can forgive the poor graphics, the God-awful music, the embarrassing presentation and lack of licensed teams, because the core of the game is so mind-bogglingly brilliant. PES fans have been doing this for so many years, that they even forgive the odd bit of slowdown, too. But, I'm afraid to say, PES 2008 on PS3 is unforgivable.
PES 2008 on PS3 is for a next-gen console but it is not a next-gen game. You cannot ignore the fact that, for whatever reason, this is a poor effort from Konami. PES executive producer Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka himself has said that he was "shocked" at the PS3 slowdown and that he doesn't have a clue why it's happening. Unfortunately this won't cut it for gamers who have forked out hundreds of pounds for a PS3, a platform that is supposed to be the most powerful console in the world. Slowdown and poor frame rates are so last gen. It's amazing to think that some scientists have replaced supercomputers with PS3s, and an experienced game developer can't get a football game to run without having a heart attack. It is with a heavy heart, a heart that has been in love with Konami's brilliant football series for longer than I can remember, that I cannot recommend PES 2008 on the PS3 over FIFA 08 on the same console.
The online servers for the game just gone live, and are currently suffering varying degrees of lag across all systems. Check back next week for our thoughts on how this year's game fares when played over the internet and hopefully, when Konami has implemented a patch.
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steven galbrai wrote at 13:54 on 23 October 2007
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what about the xbox 360 version becuase that's what im getting
aidey6 wrote at 15:05 on 23 October 2007
Well i've cancelled my PS3 pre order based on that review, that reads like a 5/10 game at best. I will wait until either PS2 version is released or see go for FIFA08 on PS3 instead....
shazam wrote at 15:54 on 23 October 2007
you said it was installed on your hard drive so your obviously reviewing a preview version.
TomO wrote at 16:08 on 23 October 2007
Shazam: Many PS3 games give you the option to install game data to the hard drive. PES 2008 is one of those games.
BamChikaWahWah wrote at 17:34 on 23 October 2007
I hope this person is wrong, stupid and don't know how to play pro. Gonna get it on PS3 but....... i just hope he's wrong.
Pip to the D wrote at 18:00 on 23 October 2007
Ditto! I'll be extremely gutted if the Ps3 is as bad as he said... It'll be such a waste - on my "Favourite console" and my "Favourite game" :(
Anonymous wrote at 21:33 on 23 October 2007
ign gave this a 9.2
alphalara wrote at 22:32 on 23 October 2007
is PES falling?
I'm confuse about this review, I've seen the ign's review few days ago, and they actually mention the slowdown, I said that it is not a great deal. But now reading this review I think that is better to do not buy any games yet. I don't see my self having the two games (fifa 08 and pes 08) and either do not having one.
I always prefer PES because of the gameplay, so I hope you guys have a businnes relationship with EA, and you must support FIFA 08 over the konami's game.
Hanley wrote at 22:43 on 23 October 2007
Any word of a 360 review of this title lads?
steven wrote at 23:08 on 23 October 2007
pes
jus read this little bit--- The PS3 and 360 games are going to be exactly the same, though Seabass admits he isn't sure why the PS3 version experiences some slowdown when the 360 does not
Tatanka wrote at 10:21 on 24 October 2007
What???
Jeez, what is this reviewer on?
I have played the game on PS3 for the past few days and I can honestly say that the slowdown ISN'T AN ISSUE. NOT EVEN A MINUSCULE ISSUE!
Either this reviewer was just dumped by his partner or it was his 'time of the month', but he is being unfairly harsh. He then calls himself a diehard fan of the previous incarnations, when this version is vastly superior to all of them. Grow up, pal.
Any chance someone who actually knows about the game could give a less spiteful and more evenhanded review?
yuovekilledme wrote at 10:55 on 24 October 2007
PES 2008 petition
http://www.petitionspot.com/petition...lowdownruinsit
Kiroquai wrote at 12:36 on 24 October 2007
Ahh, and so the Pro Evo hardcore come out of the woodwork in a desperate attempt to protect 'their' series.
Spot-on review, incidentally. Had the PS3 version for a few days now and agree completely.
hazza wrote at 15:33 on 24 October 2007
england
this is all crap, sounds like a reviws from someone who dont know about football and probly even calls it soccer. pro evo is a game you got to gell into like grandtrismo, and not all reviews are the same go to the IGN one it seem to also make more sense
Kiroquai wrote at 16:50 on 24 October 2007
Well that's possibly because they gave it the score you hoped it would get, whereas this review actually tells the truth.
Trust me, I have the game. I've had it for a few days now. It plays well enough at its core, but it is littered with flaws and the usual Pro Evo half-arsed presentation.
Caps wrote at 16:51 on 24 October 2007
Are you on drugs??
Oh my god, this review is joke. Everywhere you either read or hear people praise this game, as the best soccer-game ever. And yes, some do mention the low frame-rate, but that it's not very noticable.
I have watched in-game videos, which just look incredible.
I've even talked to a guy, who has been playing this series from the very first game (a couple of games before I started), and he said that it was hands-down the best soccer-game ever across all platforms and series.. He didn't even comment on the low frame-rate. By the huge happiness glowing in his eyes and his extreme exitment to take the game home to his own livingroom and by what I else have red, I can only laugh at this review and the person who is responsible for it..
I can honestly say, that I will never visit this site again, when you clearly can't trust the people writing the reviews and news. I'll be honest to say, that this is my first time visiting this site, so you won't loose much on that acount..
rob wrote at 17:29 on 24 October 2007
spot on
just received the game today (2 days early from gameplay.co.uk) and i whole-heartedly agree with this review. i have owned every previous incarnation of pro evo on ps2 and never have i prefered fifa to one of them. i am a huge fan of the franchise. pro evo is the closest thing to proper football ever obtained. but this is THE most dissapointing version ever, especially considering that the next gen consoles promise so much. the framerate is awful. i cannot understand how people can claim they do not notice how bad it is. whats more, the great edit mode of pes6 on the ps2 has been ridiculously downgraded to a level where it is impossible to make good looking kits. there are only 12 shirt templates for gods sake! don't get me wrong, its still better than fifa (!), but its just such a dissapointment for all of us who were waiting expectantly for the game to justify owning a ps3. it seems we'll have to wait a little longer. i await to see whether the framerate on the 360 version is as bad as the ps3 version.
arj wrote at 21:19 on 24 October 2007
absolutely agree
ive been playing pro evo since the ps1 and i live them all. i recieved it this morning and was so excited, this game is awful how it was even allowed to be released is complete madness! caps and hazza you get the game and play it and be honest about it. i can say without bias this is the most disppointing pes game i have played.
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