Call to Konami UK office reveals online problems across all versions.
Konami is suffering criticism from gamers who say the PS3 version of the game suffers from frame rate issues and slowdown. You can see why we gave the game seven out of 10 in our review here. You can also see our exclusive gameplay footage here.
Earlier today Konami apologised for the quality of online play with an online notification displayed when gamers enter the PES 2008 lobby. It revealed that the publisher has uncovered "issues which can affect the online gameplay quality of PES 2008" and is working "full strength to find a solution as quickly as possible".
AdvertisementWe gave Konami's UK office a call posing as a customer to ask what the publisher would be doing to combat the problems. We were told that a patch was being worked on that would not only attempt to improve offline play but also online play. However, Konami does not have a timeframe on when that patch will be released.
It remains unclear how PES fans who are not connected to the Internet will be able to improve the quality of their game experience, however.
Rest assured we'll keep you updated as this story develops.
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Andrew wrote at 17:25 on 25 October 2007
im gay
they should never have released it with its problems
dan wrote at 21:05 on 25 October 2007
This is so not acceptable, not for next gen,when i had a 360 with pes6 we were let down by poor editing options, and nothn got done. Please konami dont let pes down! fifa is catching improving dont make me regret getting rid of fifa08
mandableman wrote at 21:37 on 25 October 2007
Well I got my copy today, like a lot of us i had read the IGN review which gave it 9.2 or .3 ish. Basically scored both versions identicaly. I was excited, but cautious as i had also read reports that seabass himself was a bit apologetic about the ps3 version and even before it hit shelves he was bigging up improvements he would make next year?!? that does not confidence breed...
Then Pro-g reviewed the ps3 version and called it out on the frame rate problems, awarding it a 7. So I got worried again...
Having spent all day taking england through the world cup I have to say the pro-g review is spot on, at first i didnt notice the slow down as i was just so happy to be playing pes with a dual shock again! The 360 pad just cannot compare for use with pes but slowly it dawned on my that there were considerable problems especially around the goal mouths. Until pro-g review the 360 version i guess we are still left wondering if there is little to choose between them but i doubt it.
So there i was pondering how ign had managed to score the game so highly when at full time in my first match below the score (5-1 to me if you care) was a huge advert for....IGN! I dont want to draw the obvious conclusions but surely it cannot be good for web-sites that review games to be advertising within said games? What is the point of in-game advertising? To get your brand seen, surely therefore reviewing a game low reduces the amount of potential people who will see the ad!?!
All very dissappointing in my opinion and I am not some massive fanboy or forum flamer but i do play alot of games and this trend worries me.
So off i go to trade pes ps3 for pes 360 but not every pes fan is lucky/sad as i am and owns both systems.
Fingers crossed for next year and props to Pro-g for integrity.
unhappy chappy wrote at 23:59 on 25 October 2007
IGN review
One thing that really annoys me is the extremely high score IGN has given the title, I actually got the game baised on Alex simmons review which scored it a 9.2 but in reallity its far from perfect! The slow down takes alot away from the gameplay yet it still got a 10 in that section? has he even played the game? well i'll stop ranting on now but please those who review games do it properly!!! i really hope seabass and co release a patch soon because i cant wait to play the game the way it should of been released! the fact that a patch is in the works is always good news thou, should mean the problem is more than sortable!!
Schouw wrote at 00:06 on 26 October 2007
Unexceptable
Fraud to send out a game with fauls, I'm losing to Konami and PES!!!
Colaiutachambe wrote at 09:46 on 26 October 2007
Incredible
Moral Hazzard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moral Hazzard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Asimmetric information....
Konami and Sony LAGGER-Cheater
Anonymous wrote at 17:42 on 26 October 2007
360 too!
during the game it doesn't happen but the replays on the 360 are almost unwatchable.
Bicceh wrote at 18:40 on 26 October 2007
he probably played it in HD like me - and has no problems bar the replays and random points - like what he states in the review if you read it :p
tmug wrote at 22:07 on 26 October 2007
it's better on hd
I also read the review here today before going to get my copy, and got sceptical. So Iwent to the shop where they had it running on the HD demobooth, smoothly and without any slowdown during gameplay (I watched for a few mins). So I decided to get it. When I played it at home on an sdtv, the framerate sucked. It's like Skate all over again. I didn't get a ps3 to play games that look worse than ps2.
daz2106 wrote at 22:26 on 26 October 2007
well i bought my ps3 version today after much anticipation and to say im disappointed is an understatement, within 10 seconds of playing the framerate issues was bugging the hell out of me, its enough to send you into a fit!! not holding my breath on a patch anytime soon!
Cesc wrote at 18:05 on 27 October 2007
Turns out the only way to minimize the lagging is to turn off the commentary and the staduim effects....
ryan, 15 wrote at 19:15 on 27 October 2007
Frame Rate Issues!
go system settings and install!! try it it seems to make it better!
Bicceh wrote at 19:54 on 27 October 2007
i've sent a mail off to konami which i will post below
also, i know someone working on haze at the moment who is trying to find an old number he ahs for konami :) if he gets it he'll let me know
Mail i sent:
I am writing to you with concerns over the current state of your latest pro evo offering. Now myself currently has the game running on an HD TV, so for me it's not as bad as some. But i am disgraced on what i am seeing on my friends copy as he is running in standard def.
I am seeing very large amount of lag / framerate drop not only in replays but also during certain points in the gameplay. For example if a player goes off injured and it displays down the bottom corner as he is fit and coming back on. The framerate is nearly halfed at that point to what it normally is.
I don't know how right i am. But the crowd seems to have quite a bit to do with it, at least on my friends copy. If he turns off stadium effects you see a big improvement - but let me make it clear its nowhere near satisfactory still.
This message is simple, because all i want to know is if we should return our copys now due to their terrible gameplay through the ps3, or if we should wait. We both spent near £450 in total (PS3 + the game + controllers etc) to play this, and we're left outraged at how bad the performance is.
We know about the patch that is coming to hopefully fix this issue but you have given no idea as to a release date for it. I don't want to sit around for 30days and then find out that the patch didn't fix these problems and that i can no longer refund my copy of the game.
Also, is this why you didn't release the demo for the PS3? It was nice to know that the xbox 360 and the PC had demos, and have fine copies then once the PS3 hit the shelves there were instant problems. I'm not really buying the fact that you didn't have an idea about this. Was this just shpped over fomr the 360 and hoped it would work on the PS3? Because it feels like that at the moment.
I'm sorry if i'm ranting but i'm so gutted that i wait a year for the next-gen pro evo and its hit with problems like this.
A reply would be nice.
Tom Marwood
who bets i dont get a reply?
shine1396 wrote at 02:00 on 28 October 2007
temp pes fix, does this work?
Me and friends decided to get off our butts and look into this whole ps3 framerate fiasco, so this isn't a question so to speak but after all our testing on exhibition mode may be the following could help others:
Hdtv has better results then sdtv, (not much better though)
turning stadium features off helps (though not much)
turning commentry on or off didn't really work or do anything..
but heres the real puzzler, we tried all the season settings, time, balls etc, the play becomes classic brilliant pes play when you switch to winter. no need to switch anything else off, works perfect on sdtv as well. even full on rain makes no differance. Summer causes all the problems. we don't know why but the above works and as I'm writing this we've gone and had full 10 minute matches in 6 stadiums so far.
still can't play master league, cup, or the other modes cause half the games on summer setting so according to our theory its effed up, so fifty fifty your gonna get bad framerates.
can anybody else test this on their ps3 cause we fiddled with our ps3 settings before hand so we are't totally sure if its only on our ps3.
*by the way games still a effing ripoff, patch better fix a few things or they'll lose a big chunk of their fanchise. and by big I mean by word of mouth. Everyone I know is talking about pes next gen and that it sucks big time.
(15 stadiums on a bluray disc, jeez)
Bicceh wrote at 13:42 on 28 October 2007
sa far as i saw my friends SDTV was awful compared to mine on HD :p
Bicceh wrote at 14:05 on 28 October 2007
same framerate drop for me when i put it onto winter
Aaron wrote at 17:09 on 28 October 2007
Dissapointed
in the summer i worked my rear end off to gather enough cash to buy a ps3.doing loads of overtime at work i was near to dead.i also bought a hd tv costing 250 with a hd cable costing 60 quid. the ps3 at the time cost me 425 quid so altogether that is over 700 quid wasted in my oppinion. the new pro evo is appalling in my oppinion and i being a master of the game buying every series since the start this one is the most disappointing yet for me.the edit mode is seriously weak u cant even edit the kits prorperly to get look alike kits in the premiership and where has the boot editing gone?u cud make niike vapours eaasliy and now that is not an option.i have no clue how to get a sponsor on the kits for the premiership and this disapoints me after trying to get the camera to work for the game so i cud maybe mould my face onto the game or take pictures of sponsors but this is not here either. again the music is awful with one song like an australian jigg.overall this game is very poor and i admit i also bought fifa 08 a few weeks before it and overall now fifa has beaten pro evo and this is hard for me to say as i love or should i say loved pro evo but now i am merely disapointed and i think i that i will be trading this game in for something much better. and yes the freezes in the game are appalling. one thing i can say is they still have the flowing moves that pro evo brings to the table which is still good but all these poor changes have made me believe that the makers have been rather lazy and i have wasted my money. overall rarting 4 out of 10.
Bicceh wrote at 18:09 on 28 October 2007
since when was this a review page?
1 word - Paragraphs
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