if i had to choose a superior game i would go with rock band 2, alot of things about GHWT annoyed the shit out of me. first of all the career is a joke you monotonously play ever growing setlists that you have no control or choice over. the music studio sucks, i personally dont like the games set list, some songs are good and well known but most are underground lesser known bands, and whoever put those 5 songs in spanish or wutever i wanna castrate them. band play feels a bit broken since you MUST unlock every song seperatly in every mode.the DLC as of now sucks. DLC is NOT integrated into gameplay. you CANNOT pick your character in quickplay. i was really dissapointed in this game, id give it a 7 out of 10.
guys why dont you just calm down for a bit? we as the consumers take profit from the fact that there is competition in this rather new genre. i guess we would still play just the plastic incarnation of a guitar wouldnt there be such competition. really no need to take sides and define the other as totally inferior - simply because the differences are minor when it comes to the actual gamplay. so at the end of the day what remains are new impulses (studio-mode!!!) and subtle improvements (drumkit) that will take this genre further - or does anyone doubt that?!
i thought the review just valued this and otherwise was by no means biased.
After all of this, I still have to wonder how it is better than Rock Band 2. This reviewer is obviously greatly biased towards Guitar Hero, and simply states that GH:WT is better than Rock Band 2, with no real evidence for his claim. He also doesn't mention the any of the creation (in which GH:WT actually has the upper-hand), or, really, the gameplay. Yes, he says what you DO but he doesn't mention ANYTHING about band gameplay, which is what Rock Band 2 and GH:WT are about! That is why I cannot trust this review - this guy sounds like he has never even played Rock Band before. He has only heard Activision/Neversoft at press conferences, and takes everything they say as unquestionable fact.
Oh, and the Foo Fighters song in GH:WT is Everlong. HOW DO YOU GET THAT WRONG? The Foo Fighters don't even have a song called Nevermind! This is probably more disappointing to me than others because I like that song a lot, but still. In fact, it almost seems like the reviewer played the game at E3 or something, and hasn't seen it since.
At Woffls - WOW that makes you sound really smart. An in depth review by a real musician is worse than this? Either you are lazy, illiterate, or you love this game and hate seeing it bashed by a more competent reviewer. For your sake, I'm pulling for the first option.
At Johnny5 - Harmonix created Guitar Hero. Neversoft copied it in GH3. Now Neversoft again copies Harmonix with GH:WT. Get your facts straight. And adding drums and an vocal track would hardly be copying anyways! It is a core gameplay mechanic, not a broken extra like the music creator in GH:WT is.
I realise the futility in the next few minutes I'll spend typing this, but there are some things that need to be cleared up.
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first of all the career is a joke you monotonously play ever growing setlists that you have no control or choice over
The way GHWT's setlist evolves is better than GH2/3 or Rock Band handle it. You always have at least half a dozen groups of songs to choose from, much like Rock Band, but the difference is you don't have to play them over and over again like you do in Rock Band's World Tour Mode.
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the music studio sucks, i personally dont like the games set list, some songs are good and well known but most are underground lesser known bands,
Have you used the music studio? It is very complicated, but also very in detailed, and if you are willing to put in the time it is very rewarding. I managed to make the main riff to For Whom The Bell Tolls, sure it took me ages and I had to make a custom scale to record it, and it still doesn't sound that good. But damn was I proud.
Regarding the setlist, you make it sound like having lesser known bands is a bad thing? Rock Band has more well known songs, yes, but I don't assume that they are more appropriate for the game. While playing RB1 i experienced that the guitar career was very bland until the last two tiers, because the songs were chosen with the other instruments in mind. GHWT manages to do this, but keep the guitar career thorougly enjoyable, moreso than previous iterations for sure. That said, for some people it's really about what you're hearing than what you're playing.
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the DLC as of now sucks. DLC is NOT integrated into gameplay. you CANNOT pick your character in quickplay
It's called quickplay for a reason.
DLC, no, it's not as good as Rock Band's. If you're content with paying extra for more and more songs then get Rock Band because it will always offer more DLC than Guitar Hero. However, GH's has improved drastically since GH3. The list of DLC available now and soon is here
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In Rock Band, you had actual goals and real progress: fans, money, tour bus, plane, etc. Where is that fun in World Tour? World Tour's graphics are also lacking compared to Rock Band 1/2, the characters are as stiff as ever.
If you really care about the graphics you are playing it wrong. I get a sense of accomplishment from completing hard songs, I appreciate this isn't the same for everyone, but I know when i've achieved something by how well i'm playing. There is a more material representation of achievement in being able to buy new things, and personally that holds more value than a number of fans that you have, or a having a tour bus/plane which is actually of absolutely no use to you in the game, and you wouldn't know if you had it or not anyway!
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WOW that makes you sound really smart. An in depth review by a real musician is worse than this? Either you are lazy, illiterate, etc etc
I don't want musicians reviewing games. I want gamers reviewing games. It might be an in deth review, but it didn't tell me why I should buy Rock Band instead of Guitar Hero. This might partly be due to me playing Guitar Hero very differently to how most people play.
On a seperate note, the new guitar for World Tour is absolutely phenomenal, and makes playing the game so much more enjoyable. Also, I think Guitar Hero's tracklist is more varied, rather than just the songs people already know. Finally, Guitar Hero World Tour is more of a fun challenge than Rock Band 1 was, where I often found a song really easy, or punishing. I'm thinking specifically about the snakes towards the end of the green grass solo.Last edited on Sun 9 November 2008 by Woffls
i cant believe the argueing on here, have any of you even played on guitar hro world tour?
the graphics are crisper that GH3, smoother, character animations are much better, songs better, everything is better. im not saying its better than rock band 2 but its certainly a step up from rock band OR GH3
i recently got the ACDC expansion for RB2, it is better than anything GHWT could have slapped together. all of my already gr8 RB2 songs now with 18 classic ACDC tracks, you cant even compete GH :P
It seems like a few folks here have been doing their homework which is great and adds tremendously to the review, as Tin pointed out it's hard for a UK site to review a product like RB2 if they don't have access to it.
I'm in North America, so I had access to both, but still spent hours pouring over reviews trying to find out which would be better for my family to play as a group and from everything I saw RB2 beat Guitar Hero World Tour for group play.
Having said that, GH:WT seems to have a huge fan base and many single players seem to favor the GH:WT over single player Rock Band 2.
As for the setlist, to each their own. Both sets have great music and some crap, it all depends on which music you prefer, Rock Band seems to lend itself to more punk style music and GH towards more rock style, if you don't like one style you will obviously prefer the other for that reason only.
I compiled a bunch of information to try and help other people decide which way to go as well, so if you need more information that wasn't listed on this review or in some of the great comments you can find it here, http://www.squidoo.com/RockBand2orGu...urWhichWaytogo
Well i just played this on my cousins Wii bc this game has never really interested me personally.......well that has changed and i will prob b at their house playin it all the time...could use a few more songs but other than that its great.
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i thought the review just valued this and otherwise was by no means biased.
Oh, and the Foo Fighters song in GH:WT is Everlong. HOW DO YOU GET THAT WRONG? The Foo Fighters don't even have a song called Nevermind! This is probably more disappointing to me than others because I like that song a lot, but still. In fact, it almost seems like the reviewer played the game at E3 or something, and hasn't seen it since.
At Woffls - WOW that makes you sound really smart. An in depth review by a real musician is worse than this? Either you are lazy, illiterate, or you love this game and hate seeing it bashed by a more competent reviewer. For your sake, I'm pulling for the first option.
At Johnny5 - Harmonix created Guitar Hero. Neversoft copied it in GH3. Now Neversoft again copies Harmonix with GH:WT. Get your facts straight. And adding drums and an vocal track would hardly be copying anyways! It is a core gameplay mechanic, not a broken extra like the music creator in GH:WT is.
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Regarding the setlist, you make it sound like having lesser known bands is a bad thing? Rock Band has more well known songs, yes, but I don't assume that they are more appropriate for the game. While playing RB1 i experienced that the guitar career was very bland until the last two tiers, because the songs were chosen with the other instruments in mind. GHWT manages to do this, but keep the guitar career thorougly enjoyable, moreso than previous iterations for sure. That said, for some people it's really about what you're hearing than what you're playing.
DLC, no, it's not as good as Rock Band's. If you're content with paying extra for more and more songs then get Rock Band because it will always offer more DLC than Guitar Hero. However, GH's has improved drastically since GH3. The list of DLC available now and soon is here
If you really care about the graphics you are playing it wrong. I get a sense of accomplishment from completing hard songs, I appreciate this isn't the same for everyone, but I know when i've achieved something by how well i'm playing. There is a more material representation of achievement in being able to buy new things, and personally that holds more value than a number of fans that you have, or a having a tour bus/plane which is actually of absolutely no use to you in the game, and you wouldn't know if you had it or not anyway!
I don't want musicians reviewing games. I want gamers reviewing games. It might be an in deth review, but it didn't tell me why I should buy Rock Band instead of Guitar Hero. This might partly be due to me playing Guitar Hero very differently to how most people play.
On a seperate note, the new guitar for World Tour is absolutely phenomenal, and makes playing the game so much more enjoyable. Also, I think Guitar Hero's tracklist is more varied, rather than just the songs people already know. Finally, Guitar Hero World Tour is more of a fun challenge than Rock Band 1 was, where I often found a song really easy, or punishing. I'm thinking specifically about the snakes towards the end of the green grass solo.Last edited on Sun 9 November 2008 by Woffls
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the graphics are crisper that GH3, smoother, character animations are much better, songs better, everything is better. im not saying its better than rock band 2 but its certainly a step up from rock band OR GH3
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I'm in North America, so I had access to both, but still spent hours pouring over reviews trying to find out which would be better for my family to play as a group and from everything I saw RB2 beat Guitar Hero World Tour for group play.
Having said that, GH:WT seems to have a huge fan base and many single players seem to favor the GH:WT over single player Rock Band 2.
As for the setlist, to each their own. Both sets have great music and some crap, it all depends on which music you prefer, Rock Band seems to lend itself to more punk style music and GH towards more rock style, if you don't like one style you will obviously prefer the other for that reason only.
I compiled a bunch of information to try and help other people decide which way to go as well, so if you need more information that wasn't listed on this review or in some of the great comments you can find it here, http://www.squidoo.com/RockBand2orGu...urWhichWaytogo
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