The PS3 has been selling faster than the PS2 did. This at a much higher price. I would think MS wishes they could have done things like Sony has. The only reason 360 has sold more is because it was out a year earlier. If I had more money I would own both PS3 and 360 but I must say the just like the original xbox the 360 has very few games that I am interested in. I wonder what Nintendo and MS are doing next since it would seem to me they will have to release new systems well before Sony will bring the PS4.
killzone 2 the wait is nearly over !!
P.s. i think sony have done no bad for ps3 considering they still sell PS2's as well , and selling over 17 million ps3's at the the high price as the tight folk put it
means $ for $ that the money made from these sales is actually more for Sony , dont get me started about the Wii my 3 year old can play it its crap and no step up from gamecube infact its a step back cause gamecube had better games not cartoony ones.
hey karl, it doesn't matter if the ps3 was out a year later. thats why, people compare month to month and the x-box wins every angle. nice spin though trying to compare it to the ps2. you got the other way around, sony wishes it was doing as well as ms. face it, they have a failed strategy.
fantasymeister, you missed the point. it doesn't matter what sony wants/wishes in terms of market cycles. its what the customer wants and expects. a failing system that looks forward to 10 years isn't going to cut it. maybe if they were number 1 after 2 years but thats not the case. sony is continually losing money, price cut or not. whoever said sony will eventually win the console war is completely delusional like all the other sony fanboys in denial. ms would have already won and move on to their next console which would probably be the same price as the current ps3 and easier on the developers. moving on to the next console after you've done BETTER than the competition is not considered victory on sony's part. sorry sony lost this console war.
SONY keep on spinning this line, and their army of idiots keep on lapping it up. "The PS3 will have this." and "By next year" and "coming soon" and especially "in the future" are all the phrases I hear with alarming regularity. As a completely unbiased owner of all current gen systems, I do find myself wondering why people are so defensive when it comes to the PS3. Simple facts tell us that it isn't selling as much as it was supposed to, and I can't help but wonder how much of this is because it attempted to establish itself in the wrong way to start with.
Gamers want games, this is of the most pressing importance. PS3 has less games than the other competitors. That's ok, says Sonyfriend, the games are coming. Well, good. Tell me when they get here, would you, because I'd rather be playing something NOW.
For the less obsessive gamer, there are other factors when making the decision of which console to buy. SONY lost here, too, as the major one of these is price. There really is no comparison here, PS3 is far and away the most expensive choice. And all that 'out of the box vs what else you need to buy' stuff doesn't matter. These kinds of gamers, the ones looking to play casually or leisurely, won't look at that. They just look at price TODAY.
And finally, there are all the media centre/BluRay player owners. Well, it seems that they would rather spend more money on dedicated seperates than combining it all into a wonder box that is actually known for being a games console. I can buy a BluRay player for less than a new PS3 at the moment.
Which would suggest that the success of the PlayStation brand has actually hurt the PS3 in some ways. Gamers expecting the same massive amount of games were underwhelmed, casuals expecting a cheap SingStar machine were priced out of the market, and the elite technophiles had better top-end choices elsewhere.
The PS3 has found its sales level, sadly, and will stay there for the foreseeable future. I said before the launch that it would be the new 3D0, and nothing I have seen so far has proved me wrong.
I think the comment was alluding to the idea that the console mostly appeals to early adopters of the new technologies.
I finally got one yesterday, and the depth of the options available for customising it is just astounding. I can choose which PCM frequencies I want it to play back in... as far as I know 360 doesn't even support PCM or DTS for that matter. Not to mention Dolby TrueHD and BluRay playback...
At least I hope that's what Sony are referring to as early adoption.
Woffls PCM frequinces are nothing new they have been used since the 80s all you have there is a graphical equiliser. Without PCM support a 360 would be incapable of playing WAV files.
DTS is present on the 360 you just have to invest in an optical lead or HDMI to get the best from it but IT'S PERFECTLY CAPABLE. Proof
360 can also output Dolby TrueHD it just needs the right decoder at the end to out put the file. So have you got a TrueHD amp as without one you won't hear a slight difference. And most people don't own one. So you may be impressed with the Technology but its no good without other technology to go with it.
Just one more thing CheekyLee you hit the nail on the head you summed up exactly what I was thinking and posted a great comment. Thanks for an interesting read.Last edited on Thu 15 January 2009 by Karlius
You are correct, Woffls, in that the PS3 apparently has an entire world of multimedia options. Some of it seemingly pointless, too. Enable WMA and ATRAC support, for example. This is excellent, except ...
What the hell is ATRAC? Now, I happen to know, but I'm willing to bet 'FIFAFANFRANK09' doesn't. Nor will most of his friends. Or, they might know and not care. And that's what I was trying to say in my post. The people to whom such things matters are not buying PS3s as media players. They are buying dedicated hardware. The gamers don't care what music and video formats their games machine supports, just what games it does.
I once said that the PS3 should have come in two versions. BluRay, and DVD. That way, developers wouldn't have to be restricted to making BluRay games, and the prohibitive barrier to owning a PS3 for most gamers, the cost, would be alleviated. I stand by that.Last edited on Thu 15 January 2009 by CheekyLee
What you'll find is that all these file formats all work with the 360 via its media update back in the day launch time to be exact. And every new media element is added via the bi annual updates. It's just hidden away from the end user as why would you want to turn support off? If you play a WMA file it should just play and thats the most any gamer would want from its system.
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P.s. i think sony have done no bad for ps3 considering they still sell PS2's as well , and selling over 17 million ps3's at the the high price as the tight folk put it
means $ for $ that the money made from these sales is actually more for Sony , dont get me started about the Wii my 3 year old can play it its crap and no step up from gamecube infact its a step back cause gamecube had better games not cartoony ones.
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fantasymeister, you missed the point. it doesn't matter what sony wants/wishes in terms of market cycles. its what the customer wants and expects. a failing system that looks forward to 10 years isn't going to cut it. maybe if they were number 1 after 2 years but thats not the case. sony is continually losing money, price cut or not. whoever said sony will eventually win the console war is completely delusional like all the other sony fanboys in denial. ms would have already won and move on to their next console which would probably be the same price as the current ps3 and easier on the developers. moving on to the next console after you've done BETTER than the competition is not considered victory on sony's part. sorry sony lost this console war.
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Gamers want games, this is of the most pressing importance. PS3 has less games than the other competitors. That's ok, says Sonyfriend, the games are coming. Well, good. Tell me when they get here, would you, because I'd rather be playing something NOW.
For the less obsessive gamer, there are other factors when making the decision of which console to buy. SONY lost here, too, as the major one of these is price. There really is no comparison here, PS3 is far and away the most expensive choice. And all that 'out of the box vs what else you need to buy' stuff doesn't matter. These kinds of gamers, the ones looking to play casually or leisurely, won't look at that. They just look at price TODAY.
And finally, there are all the media centre/BluRay player owners. Well, it seems that they would rather spend more money on dedicated seperates than combining it all into a wonder box that is actually known for being a games console. I can buy a BluRay player for less than a new PS3 at the moment.
Which would suggest that the success of the PlayStation brand has actually hurt the PS3 in some ways. Gamers expecting the same massive amount of games were underwhelmed, casuals expecting a cheap SingStar machine were priced out of the market, and the elite technophiles had better top-end choices elsewhere.
The PS3 has found its sales level, sadly, and will stay there for the foreseeable future. I said before the launch that it would be the new 3D0, and nothing I have seen so far has proved me wrong.
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I finally got one yesterday, and the depth of the options available for customising it is just astounding. I can choose which PCM frequencies I want it to play back in... as far as I know 360 doesn't even support PCM or DTS for that matter. Not to mention Dolby TrueHD and BluRay playback...
At least I hope that's what Sony are referring to as early adoption.
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DTS is present on the 360 you just have to invest in an optical lead or HDMI to get the best from it but IT'S PERFECTLY CAPABLE. Proof
360 can also output Dolby TrueHD it just needs the right decoder at the end to out put the file. So have you got a TrueHD amp as without one you won't hear a slight difference. And most people don't own one. So you may be impressed with the Technology but its no good without other technology to go with it.
Just one more thing CheekyLee you hit the nail on the head you summed up exactly what I was thinking and posted a great comment. Thanks for an interesting read.Last edited on Thu 15 January 2009 by Karlius
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You are correct, Woffls, in that the PS3 apparently has an entire world of multimedia options. Some of it seemingly pointless, too. Enable WMA and ATRAC support, for example. This is excellent, except ...
What the hell is ATRAC? Now, I happen to know, but I'm willing to bet 'FIFAFANFRANK09' doesn't. Nor will most of his friends. Or, they might know and not care. And that's what I was trying to say in my post. The people to whom such things matters are not buying PS3s as media players. They are buying dedicated hardware. The gamers don't care what music and video formats their games machine supports, just what games it does.
I once said that the PS3 should have come in two versions. BluRay, and DVD. That way, developers wouldn't have to be restricted to making BluRay games, and the prohibitive barrier to owning a PS3 for most gamers, the cost, would be alleviated. I stand by that.Last edited on Thu 15 January 2009 by CheekyLee
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