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The Wii U is good, but not as great as it needs to be in order to compete against the likes of iPad and Kindle Fires, 22 Cans' Peter Molyneux has told GamesIndustry.

"I think the Wii U is good, but I don't feel it's great," Molyneux said. "I've played the experience, I've played Nintendo Land, I've played ZombiU, and they're good. I find holding the device in my hand - looking up at the screen and looking down at the device - slightly confusing as a consumer. It's good, but it's not great. And we really need these new pieces of hardware to be great in today's world, because the competition is not just consoles anymore. The competition is everything, all the technology.

"When you're holding a Kindle Fire or an iPad in your hand, it's just amazing technology. It really is. It's expensive, but it's amazing technology. And people like Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft need to match that. They need to match that in my mind, and exceed it. And I'm not sure the Wii U really did that."

However, the Fable creator admits the instant gratification from playing Wii Sports may have led to the creation of unrealistic expectations for the Wii U, and that he will always respect Nintendo.

"I've got unbelievable respect for Nintendo. They created our industry in a very real sense," said Molyneux. "I can remember everybody in the industry laughing and giggling about how stupid the Wii was, what a stupid name it was, and who would want motion control. And then it went on to sell what, 60, 70 million copies? It got people who never considered computer games to play them."

Wii U is on sale today in the UK.

Source: GamesIndustry

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Clockpunk@ CheekyLee

That would have been a really good addition - "We're not open to the likes of you, all dandied up and lily-livered/uncouth thug', and the like! :D
Posted 17:06 on 01 December 2012
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CheekyLee@ DancingRhino

There was a penalty for getting knocked out in Fable II, in the form of scars on your character. It didn't impact upon the game in any meaningful way, so most didn't even think it was there. It would have been nice if they actually stopped you from doing certain things in the game, or restricted you from accessing some shops, perhaps.
Posted 15:53 on 01 December 2012
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I really enjoyed Fable 2. I don't really like Molyneuxs approach to get everyone in the world to play - so we'll make the fighting a non-issue, no challenge and if you do die there's no penalty. Yawn.

It seems he's well into that with ideas for phones and stuff. Personally I wouldn't be into chasing people who aren't into games. Dark Souls demonstrates there are enough people who really get it.

But the world in Fable 2 was great and bursting with charm and life, if a little shallow.
Posted 15:41 on 01 December 2012
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Mintyrebel@ CharleSketch

I am being serious.
Posted 10:49 on 01 December 2012
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Wido@ BC_Animus

Yeah its good for the industry to have open minded minds such as Molyneux, as it certainly pushes up the ante of innovation. However, I rather have fulfilled promised features in their games over the quantity of not recieving them. So, quality over quantity.
Posted 07:34 on 01 December 2012
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BC_Animus@ Wido

Originally Posted by Wido
The problem with Molyneux is that he doesn't fulfill what he actually says. Hes a great talker, but when it comes to the actual business? He misfires everywhere. He has done good for the UK videogaming scene, but he talks total monkey poo! I rather watch David Blunkett play Just Dance on Kinect, than play some of his games.

I really don't mind guys like Molyneux, running around with all his grand goals and crazy ideas. Infact if you ask me I say we need more dreamers like him, folks who are willing to aim for the moon and shoot for the stars.

While I might not be a fan of all of their works, I really do admire folks like David Cage, Peter Molyneux, Hideo Kojima, Will Wright, Richard Garriott, and others like them. I just wish more would join the ranks of these dwindling number of stubborn, self-righteous developers – people who are willing to stand their ground, and create products that are the results of the conviction of their own artistic visions and concepts.

Even if they don’t always succeed on what they set out to create, or deliver on their promises, at least you’d know that each time you start up one of their games, you’re in for something unique and distilled with personality. You know to expect pieces of art, and not some generically-average mass-produced clone of all the other games currently on the market.
Posted 05:51 on 01 December 2012
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This guy commenting is obviously not being serious. Molyneux hasn't made anything interesting since Fable 1, and even then, Fable had one of the weakest startups ever, it was a chore to start the game over. Miyamoto not only revolutionized the industry, even now he's delivering some pretty great and solid games, and has been doing it for around 30 years now.
Posted 02:34 on 01 December 2012
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Mintyrebel@ rbevanx

OK, OK, I guess he's like bad smelling marmite, luckily I've never been able to smell since birth (another story) and love marmite so hes my type of guy :) But games as a medium are open for different opinions so I guess game makers are also :)
Posted 19:22 on 30 November 2012
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rbevanx@ Mintyrebel

I can blame him for

"This will be in the game"

Buy game and it's not there.

Hate the guy and the kickstarter thing has cemented my view on him.

The last really good game he made was Fable 1. The third one was average at best and had a lot of bugs.
Posted 19:18 on 30 November 2012
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Mintyrebel@ Wido

Everyone has made mistakes, Molyneux wants what he cant physically create sometimes, can you blame a man for ambition? When he does execute though... WOW!
Posted 18:49 on 30 November 2012
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Wido@ Mintyrebel

I love the Fable franchise, so don't presume I want COD/Battlefield games all the time. I like various of games and I am bored of the modern, generic FPS.

The problem with Molyneux is that he doesn't fulfill what he actually says. Hes a great talker, but when it comes to the actual business? He misfires everywhere. He has done good for the UK videogaming scene, but he talks total monkey poo! I rather watch David Blunkett play Just Dance on Kinect, than play some of his games.
Posted 18:44 on 30 November 2012
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Molyneux is a bit like scientology amazing if you buy the hype a bit bemusing to those that do not. Also fable is rubbish.
Posted 18:09 on 30 November 2012
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Mintyrebel@ CheekyLee

My argument was Molyneux can do whatever he likes because he is Molyneux :P
Posted 18:05 on 30 November 2012
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CheekyLee@ Mintyrebel

To be fair to myself, my original argument wasn't that Molyneux is bad. It was pointing out that the man who has underdelivered on more promises than anyone in history can't really complain that something is underwhelming without looking like a bit of a tool.
Posted 18:03 on 30 November 2012
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Mintyrebel@ CheekyLee

I didn't enjoy OOT. Not a huge fan of Zelda as a whole, but still I can understand that they are great games. but I am trying to reiterate my argument isn't that Miyamoto isn't good but that Molyneux IS brilliant!
Posted 17:58 on 30 November 2012
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