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Sales figures for Nintendo's 3DS and Sony's PS Vita have been revealed by Chart Track (via Pocket Gamer). The figures reveal that neither handheld is doing as well as their predecessors.

The 3DS is currently at 950,000 units after 61 weeks on sale. The DS managed to break the one million mark after 51 weeks. The DS did sell at a significantly lower price than the 3DS did during its initial weeks on sale.

While the 3DS isn't doing brilliantly in comparison to the DS, Sony's PS Vita is hardly a shining example of handheld sales in the UK either. According to Chart Track the system has only managed a third of the sales the PSP managed in the same time period.

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Are you interested in buying either handheld? What would it take for you to buy one or are you no longer interested in dedicated gaming handhelds now smartphones are on the market?

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Pixeljunk monsters Deluxe is now on Vita (and on offer). This in itself is all you need. Worth the £5 for sure.
Posted 16:46 on 23 May 2012
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dav2612@ Endless

It's very much what tvr77 said. I'd add that the minis on the PSN Store accessed via the PS3 tend to have screenshots or videos (usually just a collection of screenshots) but the Vita doesn't seem to have that detail.
Posted 13:58 on 23 May 2012
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tvr77@ Endless

Yep, trials/videos are really needed, i'm not willing to spend x amount of cash for something i cant see or try out first. Some psn games get videos or trials and some dont, its pretty much hit n miss
Posted 12:41 on 23 May 2012
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When a developer has a choice between selling their game on Vita, 3DS or 33.7 million smartphones/tablets in the UK, it's not really a choice.
Posted 12:35 on 23 May 2012
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Endless@ dav2612

One thing that has definitely been bugging me with the Vita store is a lack of screenshots, videos and more importantly trials! Is that the same for PSP and general PSN? Only the biggest releases seem to have any information to go by.
Posted 12:32 on 23 May 2012
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dav2612@ Endless

The trouble with the minis is that they get such little coverage. I've only got a few myself but what I have is very good. I've played a fair few minis courtesy of PS Plus and for every good one there is another 10 I'll play once and never again. But I imagine that is no different to iOS or Android, I've certainly downloaded some poor games on my Android but granted, none I've paid for.

The pricing of the minis is not always bad though, I picked up Pac-Man CE for half the price I paid on XBLA. It's the same game minus leaderboards.
Posted 12:00 on 23 May 2012
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Endless@ dav2612

I liked the concept of the minis. But the offering is all wrong and the quality of the minis I played while I had a PSP was dire. The sort of games that you get free with an OS or dozens of them on free flash sites. Anyone with an Android or iOS device could get those games for more than half the price, sometimes for free!

Fieldrunners was a mini though. I think thats par for the course of game I expect and I dont recall many minis being up to that level. Of course you can play Fieldrunners for free in your Chrome browser these days, as you can Metal Slug and Plants vs Zombies. The balance in the market as a whole is just all off at the moment I feel.

With any new generation we ought to be able to spend about 10-15 quid for games similar in scope to that of the previous generation. What we're getting instead are games that are buying decisions similar to those we have to make when buying a home console game. And for me (and if sales figures of both consoles are anything to go by, most consumers) if I had the choice of paying 25-35 for a game on a handheld, or 30-40 for the same (or similar) game on home console, the easier decision is the home version for that level of purchase.

There are too many games being released for every game to be a full-price console blockbuster.
Posted 11:48 on 23 May 2012
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dav2612@ pblive

There are already a fair number of small games available courtesy of the minis but they tend to get ignored too.
Posted 10:04 on 23 May 2012
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pblive@ CheekyLee

3DS and Vita are about equal when it comes to providing bigger titles, though graphically the Vita can obviously do the games justice, not that 3DS can't wow with the games Lee mentions above.

There are more smaller, download titles coming to Vita very soon, some very interesting ones at that, but they need more advertising. Sony seem happy just to do this via their Blog, rather than through the usual channels. Their PR team should really be pushing these sorts of games out to websites with codes to review them, as it's often the only exposure that some gamers will have to those games not on shop shelves. Unfortunately, Sony's PR are rather invisible to me at the moment so I can't tell if they're active on this front.
Posted 09:53 on 23 May 2012
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A lot of the points Endless brings up about download titles and full disc releases could equally be applied to home consoles. The simple truth is that the more interesting games are coming down the tubes at the moment, and they tend to be smaller and more focused experiences to boot.

But, saying they don't offer console-like experiences is disingenuous. Whilst I have not played anything on Vita, I can certainly talk about the 3DS. It has MGS 3, RE Revelations, DOA Dimensions, a Ridge Racer title, Sonic Generations, Rayman Origins, and even PES and FIFA. That's not too bad for a console still in its first year, especially as I have yet to mention the first party games.
Posted 09:21 on 23 May 2012
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Endless@ dav2612

Actually, as far as racing games go, I think they have it spot on with the Vita; They've covered all the bases. It's the other genres they need to improve.
Posted 09:04 on 23 May 2012
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dav2612@ Endless

But Mortal Kombat and Uncharted have not been crammed and cut. MK has taken a bit of a graphical hit but for me, Uncharted was every bit as good as the 1st Uncharted on the PS3, with added extras which suited the format.

And going back to your earlier point about pricing, the digital PSP games have mostly all had sensible price cut so you may find something more to your tastes at a suitable price.

The new handhelds need to cater for all tastes and I think they are trying to. I want PS3 experiences at my desk at work, where I do all my Vita gaming. So far Wipeout (both offline and online), FIFA, Uncharted, Rayman, Mortal Kombat and Virtua Tennis are doing just that. If I want a change of scene I have the likes of Peggle and Pac-Man CE.
Posted 08:54 on 23 May 2012
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Endless@ pblive

Part of my reasoning for the value/quality gap aspect is that for a handheld gaming title I have a 'console-experience' ceiling for what I want and expect on a device that size.

For me, games like Mortal Kombat and Uncharted: Totally not wanted on a handheld. Those are home console games that I dont want crammed and cut into a handheld. They should stay where they are best.

And that is part of my problem with the 3DS and the Vita, they are pushing an experience onto a device where I dont want it.

For me there is a lack of true handheld titles on both platforms: puzzle games, rpgs, turn-based strategy, 2D platformers and 'tap' games. There's too much experimentation and not enough tried and tested; The balance is out of whack and the quantity of titles being released shows two things: titles take too long to produce because they are trying to be console games and the cost to produce these games is too much for the the audiences that they can reach to be worthwhile doing in the first place.

I absolutely accept that there are people that want these kind of experiences, and what would a new generation of device be without bringing new experiences to the plate. But the sales figures tell me that these are not experiences for the people that made the DS the best selling dedicated mobile gaming device of the past 10 years. Those people are still playing their DS.

My level of engagement on a mobile device isnt even close to that required to play a console game, even when I'm sat on my sofa. I dont want console games on the move, I want better/bigger handheld titles. And this is why iOS and Android games are becoming more popular imo. Because they are filling the void the the new dedicated handheld gaming machines have left behind in their pursuit of 'bringing the console experience to a handheld'. It's almost as though the new generation of handhelds were made to sit alongside, yet somehow elevated above, Android and iOS devices, as well as the old DS. But those platforms offer both old-school and new generation and increasingly more 'console-like' experiences, which is what the 3DS and Vita isn't doing.
Posted 00:07 on 23 May 2012
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I hesitate at the keyboard as anything I type may just be seen as Vita loving rants. But there are some very impressive titles that more than justify their price tag. Mortal Kombat, Uncharted, Rayman Origins, Lumines (just), Wipeout.

Yes, several of these have been on a console, but its the same game on a handheld, which counts for a lot when you need to game on the go and want a console experience.

Then there's the next tier; Motorstorm RV, Stardrone Extreme, Ridge Racer etc, which all come in at much lower prices and are smaller, but still very playable titles.

Yes, I conceed that there should be a lot more out by now and I'm hoping E3 provides this, but there's still a lot out there to like on Vita.

I've said the same about the 3DS. I love the Mario games, Pilotwings still keeps me amused, Starfox, Zelda and others have propped up the console, but yet again there needs to be more.

The problem is that handhelds are not judged in the same way as consoles. A console release can see maybe 3 or 4 good games propping the system up for months on end before the second wave of good titles hit. Maybe it's because we haven't had a proper console launch for years now and feel spoilt by the choice as the consoles are all dug in?

Part if it is also going to be financial issues and not wanting to spend more on gaming. Sales have fallen all over the place and new hardware is launched against the rise of cuts and spending adjustments.
Posted 20:51 on 22 May 2012
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Endless@ dav2612

The thing is, I had an old DS and a PSP and I still thought the games for those were vastly overpriced. let alone the 25% price increase on vita/3DS games.

I would much rather have a handheld that played purely XBLA/PSN titles than ANY of the current or previous handheld consoles. No exceptions. hell a handheld Steam console would be just as appealing.
Posted 19:55 on 22 May 2012