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Update: Sony has clarified the comments made by Tretton, stating the PS4 is not designed to lock disc-based games.

Original story: Sony may have just shot itself in the foot after revealing DRM on the PlayStation 4 is entirely in the hands of the game publishers.

The platform holder was cheered last night after it appeared to take a huge step into winning over gamers by stating it would not place restrictive DRM on PS4 titles, but it appears this only applies to first-party games.

Quizzed on the matter of DRM by GameTrailers, Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton said: "We create the platform. We've certainly stated that our first party games are not going to be doing that, but we welcome publishers and their business models to our platform.

"There's going to be free-to-play, there's going to be every potential business model on there. And again that's up to their relationship with the consumer."

Asked again about DRM he added: "We're not going to dictate that. We're going to give them a platform to publish on."

"The DRM decision is going to have to be in the hands of the third parties – that's not something we're going to dictate or control or mandate or implement."

VideoGamer.com Analysis

Should third-parties such as EA and Activision opt for strict DRM on its Xbox One titles it may well be the case that the same will apply on PS4. Expect this to rumble on for some time to come.

Source: GameTrailers Live

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DancingRhino

,.,,
Posted 10:40 on 12 June 2013
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wanderingmind

This really isn't such a big deal - it won't harm the used games market, but will allow publishers to get something from used games still. by using online passes etc.

It's less draconian than XBone - it won't do the big brother 'we don't trust you, i'm just going to look through your receipts to see if you really paid for this properly' but it will allow the publishers to have some sort of anti piracy control to discourage illegal copies etc.

As someone who hasn't pirated a game - i have no problems with it.
Posted 10:32 on 12 June 2013
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s_h_a_d_o

Well, duh!
Who didn't see that coming? :|
Posted 21:06 on 11 June 2013
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MJTH@ mbrellisford

Yeah so essentially this is exactly the same kind of systems we had before, with online passes and season passes etc.
Posted 20:57 on 11 June 2013
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bloody27

wow. i guess piracy is the future
Posted 20:54 on 11 June 2013
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TheLastProphet

Videogamer have misinterpreted Jack Tretton's statement.

All he is saying is that if a publisher wants to have an online pass or anything else which discourages people buying used games and encourages buying new games then Sony will leave those decisions up to them.

What Sony have made perfectly clear is that the PS4 is completely different to the Xbox One - in that the hardware of the console will not check if a game is new or used, and that the PS4 has not been designed to stop a used game from working the way the Xbox One has.

On the PS4 games are not tied to your PSN account the way they are tied to your Xbox Live account on the Xbox One - so publishers will be heavily restricted in the measures they can take against used games on the PS4, whereas on the Xbox One they can do anything they want - even charge £40 to activate a used game on your Xbox Live account if they wish.

Both the PS4 hardware and the PSN software do not accommodate the draconian DRM measures Microsoft have implemented into the hardware of the Xbox One and the software of Xbox Live.

Sony have not made the same deals with publishers and retailers that Microsoft have in their attempt to control used game sales, and without all the facts and acting on nothing but assumption Videogamer should admit they got the wrong end of the stick and remove this story or at the very least update it admitting their assumptions are wrong.
Posted 20:51 on 11 June 2013
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mbrellisford

Misinterpreted

"Sony has outright confirmed my initial interpretation. As reported by GameFront, Sony has stated that Tretton's use of the term "DRM" referred only to playing used games online. Essentially, they're talking about letting publishers use online passes, and no other kind of restrictions."
Posted 20:25 on 11 June 2013
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BrySkye@ 1tch

Rather than you 100% assurance, how about a credible source?
Posted 20:24 on 11 June 2013
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1tch@ BrySkye

24hr is required for playing an installed game. Microsoft did a terrible presentation and just as bad as addressing the elephant in the room. I can 100% assure you that if you own the game disc, play offline for as long as you want.
Posted 20:20 on 11 June 2013
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BrySkye@ 1tch

That's just not true. They've flat out stated that unless the console calls home every 24 hours, game functionality will stop.
You can still use it to watch TV, just not play any games until you reconnect to the internet for it to do its check.
Posted 20:18 on 11 June 2013
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1tch@ DragonGuard666

Suuure, haha. You'll see. Sony has no "HARDWARE DRM RESTRICTIONS". Do you really think a publisher will put out a game with DRM only one one console?
Posted 20:16 on 11 June 2013
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1tch@ BrySkye

yes that what is was, 24 for home install, 1 hr for friends.. Sorry about that. But providing you own the disc, play offline with no internet as much as you want.
Posted 20:15 on 11 June 2013
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BrySkye@ 1tch

Where did you get that from? I understand the 24 hour check is for playing at home.
The 1 hour check is when you're playing at a friends house.

What Sony have basically said is that the system is more or less the same as the PS3 right now.
DRM is not fundamentally part of the console on an infrastructure level.
Posted 20:13 on 11 June 2013
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DragonGuard666@ 1tch

Nice to meetchya MS fanboy/employee. The restrictions are not the same, for Sony it's just effectively online passes. Also, don't lie, it's not nice to lie. We know what the official info said.
Posted 20:12 on 11 June 2013
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1tch

This issue is outta hand.

Sony simply played off Microsoft's lack of ability to clear the air addressing the elephant in the room. Sony sidestepped and will have the same DRM restrictions are Microsoft.

Also, XBOX ONE CAN play games offline.. You can play off the disc without needing internet. Which means it plays used games as well. 24hr check in is only for playing installs and at a friends house.

Sony lied to you all and marketed the muppets with words.
Posted 20:09 on 11 June 2013