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The next generation PlayStation and Xbox consoles will both be released by the holiday season 2013, people familiar with the matter have told the Wall Street Journal.

The same people told WSJ that Sony's planned February 20 event, which teases that we'll "see the future" will indeed unveil the next PlayStation, coming ahead of Microsoft's next Xbox reveal.

WSJ's sources also state that the PS4 will use AMD parts, introducing compatibility concerns with the back catalogue of PS3 games.

Source: WSJ

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Grammartron@ Wido

Yeah same here - I'm sure they'll both do everything they can to carry across both trophy systems to the new hardware, you can just imagine the outcry if they didn't.

I love the idea of trophies/score equating to goodies/discounts. A lot of people on here would be in for a nice, cheap time of things! But I think we're probably both dreaming there.
Posted 14:56 on 01 February 2013
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pblive

On PS4, the most important aspect of Backward Compatibility will be the downloadable titles and PS+

A lot of us have had PS+ since day 1 and I for one would be pretty miffed to lose my whole collection of games.
Posted 14:46 on 01 February 2013
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Wido

Backwards capability is definitely something I want to see happening on these next generation consoles. Also with the backwards functionality. I would like to see existing achievements/trophies to still continue, unless they are redefining that slightly.

Interesting actually thinking about redefining the achievement/trophy system. Maybe for specific games on achieving those accolades, they could work in conjunction with DLC and unlocking in-game content. Instead of paying for DLC, the more you reach specific goals you can gain access to that lock content. In easier terms, transactions made by the Gamerscore or trophies to unlocking more content for the game. I would love to see that happening, but it will never happen.
Posted 14:40 on 01 February 2013
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Grammartron

Also worth remembering that aside from first-party exclusives, all third-party developers will work to optimising their titles for the weaker of the two consoles - it's what has been happening throughout this gen despite the PS's superior power.

So all the pissing contests you'll see online regarding chip manufacturers, clock speeds, Teraflops and the rest of it will ultimately mean very little, unless one is vastly different in terms of capabilities and functionality, which doesn't seem likely at this stage.
Posted 14:02 on 01 February 2013
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If the rumours are correct then the new Playstation and Xbox will have very very similar architecture. The rest is down to the OS and how easy they make it to send information from one component to another.

As for supporting the last gen, the software emulation, if written correctly, should be independent of hardware between generations.
Posted 12:27 on 01 February 2013
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Mintyrebel

OK allow me to explain (to the best of my ability/knowledge)

@Chlandy This depends, usually when developing multiplatform games then it will support both AMD and Intel components, hence they should be backwards compatible. Personally I have only dabbled in PC development and on PC both Intel and AMD components are accounted for, I don't know whether this is the same in consoles or not. If however games are not backwards compatible then both disk and download versions will be effected.

@ETO Yes the Xbox does, however AMD parts are cheaper and much, much less powerful than their AMD and Nvidia counterparts. I can understand the move though, it's well documented that the PS3 is much more powerful than the Xbox 360 however very few titles actually manage to use all of the systems power either because the game is multiplatform and they wouldn't take the time to improve just the PS3 version but also because I hard developing for the PS3 is f*cking hard. Whereas the 360 resembles more of a PC development environment the PS3 is meant to be a beast to develop for.

Hope that clears a few things up, but remember I'm only a college student so take what I say with a pinch of salt.
Posted 12:18 on 01 February 2013
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rbevanx@ Endless

Yeah it also doesn't help the service has been getting worse while I still pay for it and there are adverts all over the place.
PSN+ though with the discounts (some are even free day 1) for arcade game new releases and free retail games every month as part of the service is far better than XBL gold easilly.
I also don't have to pay a fee to use Lovefilm and Netflix etc which stil baffles me that's part of the paid service.
Posted 11:59 on 01 February 2013
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Endless@ EverTheOptimist

You're right, this is a hugely positive step in cross-platform development, assuming the next xbox continues to use AMDs hardware.

Sony has a lot of work to convince me yet, but I have to admit amidst tightening budgets playing online for free is becoming a bigger draw for me. If MS decide to still charge me a Live sub to play online then they leave themselves wide open to me jumping ship back to Sony.
Posted 11:52 on 01 February 2013
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EverTheOptimist@ Mintyrebel

What's wrong with AMD? Isn't the Xbox using their stuff too?

I don't know anything about this kind of stuff to be honest. I just put the disc in and the prettiness floods my screen.
Posted 10:44 on 01 February 2013
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munkee

This makes me feel all tingly inside :)
Posted 10:40 on 01 February 2013
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Chlandy@ Mintyrebel

But will there be issues just with trying to play discs or also with the back catalogue on the PS Store?
Posted 10:38 on 01 February 2013
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Mintyrebel

"WSJ's sources also state that the PS4 will use AMD parts" Oh dear....
Posted 10:04 on 01 February 2013