Game creators offer their thoughts on motion control.

Microsoft's Natal and Sony's Motion Controller are looming over the horizon. They promise much: in the case of Natal, completely controller-less gaming. In the case of Sony's Motion Controller, gaming with a wand (and a nunchuck, if recent reports are to be believed). Imagine this: playing Burnout with an imaginary wheel, or shooting in Halo as if holding an imaginary gun. Sounds good, huh? Of course it does.

Everyone has an opinion. The hardcore are terrified of motion sensing, as if it'll emerge from the depths of hell itself and reign down fiery doom upon Call of Duty and Gears of War. The casuals love the idea of chatting with Milo, and navigating the Xbox 360 dashboard with their hands Minority Report style. Everyone in between: well, it's all very interesting, isn't it?

But what about the developers themselves, you know, the people behind the games? What do they think about all this motion malarkey? What impact will Natal and Arc have on hardcore gaming? We thought we'd find out, quizzing everyone and anyone willing to entertain our nonsensical warbling on the good, bad, and ugly of waving your arms about like a demented monkey.

Peter Johansson, Just Cause 2 lead designer - Avalanche Studios

Q: Motion sensing seems like a natural evolution for the Just Cause series; to be able to cast the grappling hook by moving your arm forward with Natal or with Sony's Motion Controller, for example. How do you feel about applying motion sensing to more core-based game experiences?

PJ: I'm personally not too keen on just replacing normal button presses with a movement, because I don't necessarily feel it enhances the experience much. But if you set out to design a game that wants to take advantage of those features I can see a lot of opportunities. If you can design it from the ground up with that in mind I think you can do some really interesting stuff. I think sometimes even simple stuff, like navigating a HUD, a GUI, could be really intuitive. I want to see the map and I just get the map down, stuff like that. I could see that working really well in traditional games as well. So I think there are a lot of opportunities. In the beginning you're going to see a lot of games that are just completely based on it, and then a bit later you're going to see traditional games that incorporate bits and pieces that work for them.

Q: There's third-person shooting in Just Cause 2. How do you see motion sensing applying to shooting? Would you want to hold your hands up in front of the screen pulling an imaginary trigger?

PJ: I'm not so sure, actually. I could certainly see it being an accessible thing that makes it easier for a broader audience, and less intimidating and easier to grasp. But I could also see a lot of traditional gamers feeling uncomfortable doing it and comparing it to the experience with a controller, and then they say I have better precision with a dual analogue stick. If you're going to do that, you probably want to offer a traditional way of controlling.

Neven Dravinski, UFC Undisputed 2010 producer - THQ

Q: We're seeing Natal and the Arc coming on. Any plans for later iterations of UFC to add motion-sensing?

ND: I can neither confirm or deny the existence of…

Q: Are we going to get to the point where in order to do a submission you do have to do a submission on someone else in a room?

ND: I would actually hope not. As much as I do appreciate the dynamic of breaking the fourth wall and actively participating in a game in that manner, for a fighting game specifically, I like our dynamic. There is a place for it, certainly. But it would really have to be executed very well.

Q: You would be encouraging kids to hit people.

ND: Yeah, well there is that.

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cjb_bjc

Normal games should use normal controllers. Developers need to think of games that will utilize the new controller scheme, otherwise it will all be a waste of time!
Posted 16:59 on 10 March 2010
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cousinwalter

When its goes 3D you could use Xbox Live could work like ARI workspace/office from Heavy Rain... that would be immense, just as long as sustained use doesnt lead to death.

Other than that, agree with the comments above can't see a purpose in 3rd or 1st person games over use it over a normal controller, Zelda and Mario on the Wii work well to an extent but they could do without it just as well and most input comes from the nun-chuck joystick anyway.
Posted 08:56 on 10 March 2010
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mikejosh1978

Its all next gen in next gen in terms of Natal being the eyetoy Sony wanted to make & Sony making the motion control Nintendo wanted to make in my opinion . Nintendo have dominated the niche market since the Wii's release & with people now bored of the lack of real hardcore experiences & the samey controls for most games the console sits collecting dust in mine & many other homes . Its rivals are out to pull in consumers to get you properly interacting with your Tv like we had to do with Eyetoy , which still keeps my kids entertained longer than the Wii. With HD graphics & no lazy waving whilst sat down these new products will sell well at xmas & i for one am excited by the fun Natal will give the family & the hopefully the precision interactive game experience Sony will hopefully give us . The nay sayers could be rite & the tech maybe there but without the software to back it up they both could epically fail but this hasn't stopped Nintendo has it?
Posted 08:55 on 10 March 2010
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clangod

I'm not too fussed about this whole thing either.
I agree with El-Dev. I'd rather enjoy a decent game session from the comfort of my lounge rather than flailing wildly around a room.

There may be some decent adaptations to the tech in the future but as mentioned we've seen next to nothing so far. I'll stick with the sit down gaming.
Posted 08:32 on 10 March 2010
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tsep23

Imaginary weapons does not sound good at all. Sounds lame. Now holding an actual gun with a motion controller inside of it sounds awesome. As for racing with an imaginary wheel... I challenge anyone that reads this forum to hold their hands up at shoulder level for 30 minutes straight. The same thing goes for RPG's. I'd rather hold a sword with a motion controller in it than an imaginary sword.

I think Sony's motion controller is going to work better for the current games we know of today. I think Natal can be better for movie games like Heavy Rain.
Posted 02:33 on 10 March 2010
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strickers66

I still can't see how Natal will be better than the Wii/PS3 motion as a GAME controller?I've used Eyetoy and I understand that Natal is next gen but how does that improve the waving infront of the camera games?I'd rather use my Dualshock/360 pad thanks.
I think Natal will outsell Sonys effort but Sonys effort will be better for games and have more game uses.
Posted 18:47 on 09 March 2010
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SexyJams

I thought it wasn't going to be called Arc?
I agree with El-Dev,
we've seen next to no software for these devices.
It's alright keeping it as a surprise for E3, but seeing nothing is actually fairly worrying.
I was so psyched about Natal, but I'm slowly losing excitement
Posted 18:02 on 09 March 2010
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El-Dev

I don't think it's the future of harcore gaming at all, in fact I'd say it's been proven that it's not for hardcore gamers at all. Gamers want to sit on a chair and play games for hours sometimes, who will stand waving their arms about for hours in their living room/bedroom? I just don't see it.

Also what worries me is that Natal and Arc were announced last summer and so far we've literally seen nothing what I would call a good game. There's that game that Jonathan Ross was playing, that would literally hold my attention for about 10 minutes at a party while I'm drunk.

In relation to the endless possibilities brought about by Natal, well that's all well and good but they've put serious limitations on it from the start. I want them both to fail.
Posted 17:57 on 09 March 2010
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renegade

Its a good idea, but I dont see how it can work with these triple A games, yes their will always be expections. But I dont think its in the near future. Next Gen? Maybe, I dont see their being a massive jump in visuals. Then again, with PS3 and xbox not even being able to run Crysis on highest (crysis 2 is about as good as crysis 1 on medium) their is clearly room to improve.
Posted 15:44 on 09 March 2010