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John Vs Fun

It just seems they focused on things like pretty water, and making the pedestrians drop litter, rather than making a fun game. And the sad thing is, people actually seem to like it, so it wont change in future GTAs; that's it. Game Over for GTA by the looks of it. You can't even go on the airport runway without getting an instant max wanted level. What's the point of having it there if you can use it?
Niko's clothes suck, all the clothes in the stores are boring. I wanted the same choice as in San Andreas. It's the whole realism vs fun argument again. There are no planes to fly, or bmxs to ride. I know they might not fit with the story, but why not give players the choice to use them if they want. There's no chain-gun, chainsaw, knuckle dusters etc. The fun weapons aren't there.
John Vs GTA 4's Story
I've played bits of the story, but there's only so much you can play when the game isn't fun. A story alone isn't enough. It's the mechanics, the things you do 95% of the time that are most important. If those suck the story is pointless. I don't care for realism, cinematic quality, or immersion etc, just good controls and freedom. Those are the things that immerse you.
John Vs GTA 4's Graphics
When you get hit by a car or watch someone fall down some stairs realistically it's OK but it doesn't make the game amazing. You lose tons of health from tiny bumps. Like, I stood on a car bonnet, and the driver drove off at 2mph. I fell in a ragdoll style onto the bonnet, really lightly, but lost tonnes of health. You used to be able to stand on their bonnet and get a ride around, not any more.
The city sucks. 90 degree corners every few metres, making it difficult to build up speed in most areas. There are very few open spaces to cruise through. Everything looks the same so it's easy to get lost or go round in circles.
The graphics are nice, but I still prefer the previous GTAs' almost cartoon-like appearance. When things are cartoonish they are simpler, easier to see, so you don't miss mission markers, shops are easy to see because its not pitch black at night. The water looks really nice though - I'll give them that.
John Vs GTA 4's Multiplayer
I played the free mode for a while, but it's just not as much fun as it could be. The cops are too good. They're on you in seconds so can't can't build up to anything. You get a wanted level for what seem like small misdemeanours and they're on you, with 2-3 cars straight away. Then they kill you really quickly, with headshots, so you have to leg it, which forces you to drive, which sucks. I just don't want to play it any more.
Overall
It's a sandbox game which is no longer a sandbox. It's more like a very small steel box. You can't break any rules. People playing GTA 4 without wanting to break the rules can probably have a good time, but for me this isn't GTA any more. They might be able to patch it to make it more like old GTAs but that won't happen. If this is what GTA has become I'm never buying another game in the series. I didn't like Saints Row because it wasn't enough like GTA, but it's better than this.
We stand by our view that GTA 4 is one of the finest games released on this generation of consoles, but what do you think? Do you agree with John? Has GTA 4 been a huge disappointment or a generation defining game? Let us know in the comments section below.
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I really like GTA4. If I want to stuck up cars and let half of the city explode, I would play GTA 1 or 2.
*thumbs up* for the more realistic gameplay. I was always disappointed from older GTAs, that the possibility to act "real" was really seducted.
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wow, everything you don't like about the game is what makes it GREAT! Boy, after completing GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, and both 'Stories' game... I feel sorry for you that you can't appreciate the enlightened direction rockstar has taken in reinventing the gaming industry yet again. Sad for you, awesome for me... Basically these complaints are petty and you sound like a huge whiner.
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Despite this, the game is worthy of it's hype, much more so than Halo 3 was. GTAIV represents the first step of the franchise in the next gen. It'll be better when a Vice City title hits PS3 and the next XBOX.
Till then, I'll be happy beating up hookers and jacking helicopters.
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You are complaining about it being realistic, since Rockstar announced the game, everybody know that it was going to be much realistic.
If you want a game, which is nut realistic, the wait until 2009 and get Prototype.
And just because you is so bad at this game, that you can drive the cars, that doesn't mean it is bad or suck.
So why don't you just go home and play Super Mario, that is really unrealistic, big living plants I guess it is a game for you.
I can't believe this a article from a GTA fan!
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You are too stuck in your hardcore-fan-passion to the old ones that you may be missing the important points. Old formulas have to evolve too. If you want unrealistic freedom in sandboxes, go play Crackdown.
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It's a good game, but sorry guys, it's an 8 not a 10.
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While the new "realism" in the game doesn't bother me so much, what does bother me is:
The soundtrack sucks compared to previous games.
Not enough shops : Guns, Clothes, Food, etc.
No working out and staying in shape.
No modding your car anymore (I'm 40% done and I haven't seen one yet).
There should be create a character by now!
For these reasons I'm still a little let down. Certainly a 9 but this game is no 10. Its funny, some games that critic score7's and 8's wind up being better. GTA 4 is great but GTA 3 was more innovative.
GTA 5 better be back in Vice City!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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